Ashleigh Freckleton

I have to catch this flight.

but they were sending a car to him.

So that made me think that maybe he was in a neighbouring country somewhere from Romania, but it never occurred to me that he was in France.

God.

Yeah, that was the only location I went to in the end because from that house I flew straight home to Australia.

I got out from that situation in that house.

They absolutely meet all of the criteria of trafficking.

It's really hard.

I think I meet a lot of the criteria, but there's a grey area there because I think sometimes trafficking is more about commercial exploitation and this was more about a personal exploitation.

I don't think it is, is it?

Yeah.

And that was my understanding of the situation as well.

And when I looked into kind of the different criteria of trafficking, I thought that's what this sounds like to me.

No, I knew that I was going to meet him and I was terrified at the thought and I didn't want to go, but I didn't feel like I was able to say no.

And that also is such a huge piece because it's not consent if you're afraid to say no.

And so many of these women...

It's presented as a choice.

It's not a choice because you're terrified of saying no.

And yeah, I knew I was going to meet him, but I thought, I had suspicions at this point in time that maybe these sexual initiations were happening.

But I thought if he's actually a spiritual master,