Ashley Flowers

Like, do you think, I know you're like, what does that mean?

I literally was like, who?

Who's too obsessed?

Yeah.

But do you think this ever turns into an unhealthy obsession where people become paranoid at all, like, hours of the day, as opposed to being, like, vigilant and using these tools for themselves?

I think it can.

I mean, I've had people be like, I had to stop listening for a little while because it was becoming...

Yes, some people are like just built where they can like hand a little more.

I think people can come in and come out.

And I also think it's why like we're really intentional about doing like different types of episodes because there are so many important like lessons or educational pieces that I want people to hear.

We're about to do an episode about AI kidnappings, which the scams, which I don't know if you've like heard of.

But I I've heard of some I don't know if this is what you're talking about, but where like either people are pretending to be someone else through AI, like changing voices, all of that stuff.

There was a woman who was with her daughter at a dance class and her husband, her other daughter were like on a ski vacation.

She's like sitting in the car waiting for her and she gets this phone call and it's her daughter on the phone.

freaking out and is like like mom I did something bad I'm so sorry she's crying crying crying heaving and she's like I know my daughter's cry and this guy gets on the phone and is like you have to bring this money to x y and z location and as she's got like people around her trying to figure out what's going on one of them calls her husband and he's like what are you talking about I'm with my with our daughter right now

And this is becoming a huge new scam where they're taking a couple of bites from people's social media where they're talking or my podcast where I'm talking all day every day and creating voice models to extort people for kidnapping.

I have heard about this.

Different types of cases.

So I do think that some people can get really paranoid, but I hope they like keep coming back.

Right now I'm working on like the weirdest catfishing story I've ever encountered.