Ashley Flowers

I mean, I think that there's like a there's like two things that are like constantly drawing me to these.

And I think in like the solved cases, it's we have a saying crime junkies that like we're not paranoid, we're pro-paranoid.

Like I wanted to look for all of the things that like if I were ever in this situation, what would I do?

What led up to this?

What do I look out for in a relationship?

Like what are the red flags?

So in a lot of the solved cases, I feel like what we find is education, self-preservation.

And then in the unsolved cases, I mean, I, my dream was to, like, be a detective.

I'm, like, sure if, like, I can get the right case file, if I can talk to the right person, like, surely I can solve the mystery.

And I think our brains, like, love a mystery.

I don't think it manifests as true crime maybe for everyone.

But, like, we look for order where there isn't any.

And, I mean, like, it's like missing person cases I'm obsessed with.

Like, how is someone here?

One second.

Right.

gone the next nancy guthrie i mean is that not what are you heartbreaking i don't know i'm just like are you this is 2026 there is nothing like we don't that i can't i can't even believe that but i'm also like very conspiratorial so like me too i don't know if i know enough about this case but like all the things i was reading about the brother-in-law and that kind of stuff i'm like

We did a whole like episode in our fan club where I was like, you guys, there's like weird stuff happening in the background.

The ransom notes going to all the media outlets.

I know.