Ashley Flowers

My biggest question, too, is about the long conversations they had.

They talked for an hour the first day, 45 minutes the next day.

So at any point did it come up?

that they would be traveling up there with cash?

Did it come up that nobody would really know where they were?

We couldn't reach Dan for this episode, so we couldn't ask him ourselves what those conversations were.

Yeah.

So according to police docs, they did process the truck, but it doesn't go into detail about what was found.

So I don't know if they got anything good.

I don't know if they got anything to compare to anyone.

I don't know if it was like all wiped down.

And then based on what we have when it comes to Dan, it just says that they thoroughly checked him with, quote unquote, negative results.

But we looked into Dan Clemens ourselves when we were reporting on this case in late 2025, and we found something pretty interesting.

A man with the same name and the right age was arrested in 2017 for killing a man back in 1997.

Now, we haven't confirmed whether these are the same people since Dan would not return our calls, but we showed Sherilyn's friend Nikki this guy's mugshot, and she confirmed that that is the same man she knew as Dan Clemens, who she had interactions with on the mountain while searching for the Jamesons.

I don't know a ton.

All I was able to find was that, so like you said, it happens in 97.

And a man named David McCloud was found shot to death at his ranch in California.

Nothing is taken from the house, but his killer took his truck and drove it up to San Francisco and must have fled or whatever because they end up arresting this Dan Clemens guy in Oklahoma.

This is where, like, our story takes place, where he'd been living under a fake name.