Ashley Flowers

Tell him we're recording now.

During that call, Wilfredo confirmed that he did have plans to take Milagros grocery shopping the day that she was murdered.

But those plans, he said, were for sometime between 8 o'clock and 9 o'clock in the morning, not the evening like he told Vanessa.

He said that he drove over to Arneson Avenue with his wife and also with Milagros' now-deceased sister.

And he said the sister went up to get Milagros.

According to Wilfredo, she knocked on the apartment door, but no one answered.

After a while, she went back to the car.

And she told Wilfredo and his wife that Milagros must have left, so they drove off and went shopping without her.

Wilfredo said that the sister witnessed nothing out of the ordinary when she was outside Milagros' apartment.

She didn't hear anything either, no screaming, no baby crying inside.

And she certainly didn't see anything like blood.

Wilfredo said that later that day, it was Edwin who broke the news to him that Milagros had died.

He said that the police never even interviewed him about Milagros' murder.

But that directly contradicts what they told us.

Now, during his interview with our reporter, Wilfredo's daughter, Annette, was present.

Now, we had our own translator, but Annette helped relay our questions.

Wilfredo is a little hard of hearing.

And our reporter, Laura, wanted to check something that she had heard from Vanessa.

The next few weeks for the family were a blur.

Vanessa missed school for a long time as her nine-year-old self-processed what had happened.