Ashley Lopez

If you want to do that, you have to go through Congress, which I think is what these executive orders are trying to circumvent.

And Hansi, I mean, this is another example of Trump.

I mean, there are many at this point of Trump trying to work around Congress to make big changes to how the government works.

And right now, Trump is trying unsuccessfully so far, I should say, to get Congress to pass some sweeping changes to election law.

Can you tell me how that effort's going?

Right.

Well, I do want to talk about the practical aspects of this, which feels a little silly because, as we mentioned, this is likely to be blocked by the courts.

But what do we know about how like a national voter list would actually even be created?

All right.

We're going to take a quick break.

More in a moment.

And we're back.

And Miles, I mean, if the courts already blocked Trump's earlier executive order on voting, I guess, like, why issue a new one?

Is there a point in Trump doing this, even if it seems inevitable that the courts will stop it?

Yeah.

And I also wonder if having a more conservative Supreme Court right now has also made him think like, I don't know, the legal long shot of this might not be as bad as it was maybe in my first term.

Like, who knows what the Supreme Court might grant me because he's had a pretty good batting average.

Miles, I do want to talk about the voter list.

It's not like the government would be starting exactly from zero from all I can tell, right?

Like this is a project the Trump administration has taken on.