Ashlynne McGhee

And then the third threat is actually one that I think is most interesting to me.

And it's not a threat that exists now, but it is a threat that could exist.

And that is One Nation has been really good at rallying the troops and bringing people with them because they create this sense of what it is to be Australian.

You're one of us.

It's them over there that's our enemy.

Come with us.

But what if a party on the left or a leader on the left did that?

What if a leader on the left really spoke about what it means to be Australian and bring people with them on that, something that people were proud of, that they wanted to belong to, that they felt a part of, that really got some momentum and moved people along?

I think that people just want to belong and that is actually perhaps the biggest risk is that the left gets organised, they get very strategic and

And they create something that is more positive, that people want to be part of.

And we'll see people moving away from One Nation.