Astead Herndon

Yeah, I mean, this is an area where I'm really cautious of, like...

minimizing or downplaying what the risks are, because ultimately, like, I can't tell people ICE aren't going to do stuff.

Look, I think there is a desire within the administration for this tournament to project very well on America.

And I think if you look at President Trump as someone who sees the world

through ratings and a little bit of vanity.

He knows the World Cup has a huge global audience.

That's why he wants to be involved in it.

He has the vanity of saying, I delivered this thing, so he wants it to go well because it came in his first term.

Therefore, I think it would be politically strange for...

Fans going to these games to be the target of raids.

However, that doesn't mean there aren't people within the administration who might see it as an opportunity or a good idea.

And it also won't mean that there could be events that take place through kind of normal rules.

actions of soccer fans that lead to arrests, you know, whether it's, I don't know, a fight breaks out or a bit of hooliganism or people drink too much.

You know, like, people drink too much and there's disturbances.

And then following arrests, there could then be checks on...

papers and do you have your papers and ice?

There will be big diaspora tendencies at these games.

I think of games like Ecuador playing Germany at MetLife Stadium.

Huge Ecuadorian diaspora will make that stadium look like a home game.

Now, does that make those fans more reluctant to go to games?