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And what was the lobbying effort like to actually go about changing the laws?

How did the legalized sports betting market affect the black market of gambling?

I mean, you mentioned previously about how there were the bookies and the kind of way betting worked historically.

What's happened to that since legalization?

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I think things have changed rather quickly.

If you would have told me a couple years ago that active MLB players would be getting arrested for coordinating prop bets, I would think that that amounts to a full-blown scandal for these leagues.

If you would have told me about the kind of federal interest that we're seeing right here, I would have thought that this would kind of like lead to a kind of hair on fire moment.

It doesn't really seem like it, though.

And in some ways, it seems like the leagues are continuing on, considering, to your point, just how ingrained these sports betting communities are.

Is there a tipping point here?

Or like, what would it take for you think there to be a genuine conversation about maybe this has gone too far?

One of the things you mentioned there is the honesty of competition.

You know, that is something that I think people bring up when it comes to this sports betting conversation, saying, you know, maybe they'll get to a point where the information's such that you kind of don't believe your eyes when it comes to the competition, that, you know, it seems a little more WWE scripted than genuine uncertainty.

Is there any risk that the leagues here are kind of blind to a reputational loss that affects how people view the sport?

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