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Atrioc

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Lemonade Stand
The Biggest Merger Ever | Ep. 050 Lemonade Stand ๐Ÿ‹

Last time we talked about Anthropic doing this study with programmers who learned a new Python library using AI.

Lemonade Stand
The Biggest Merger Ever | Ep. 050 Lemonade Stand ๐Ÿ‹

And the ones who used AI didn't learn it as well.

Lemonade Stand
The Biggest Merger Ever | Ep. 050 Lemonade Stand ๐Ÿ‹

Cool.

Lemonade Stand
The Biggest Merger Ever | Ep. 050 Lemonade Stand ๐Ÿ‹

couldn't refer back to what they had learned.

Lemonade Stand
The Biggest Merger Ever | Ep. 050 Lemonade Stand ๐Ÿ‹

Like the understanding was worse.

Lemonade Stand
The Biggest Merger Ever | Ep. 050 Lemonade Stand ๐Ÿ‹

So this is really concerning in a world where we have AIs that are increasingly like, oh, I can do everything for you.

Lemonade Stand
The Biggest Merger Ever | Ep. 050 Lemonade Stand ๐Ÿ‹

80% of your code is just tell me what to do, but you're actively losing the critical thinking skills.

Lemonade Stand
The Biggest Merger Ever | Ep. 050 Lemonade Stand ๐Ÿ‹

So then there's another from Modern Software Engineering, a YouTube video, where they did a study about the maintenance of code.

Lemonade Stand
The Biggest Merger Ever | Ep. 050 Lemonade Stand ๐Ÿ‹

And the idea is, look, writing code is, getting the first draft done is a small portion of the overall work it takes to do software.

Lemonade Stand
The Biggest Merger Ever | Ep. 050 Lemonade Stand ๐Ÿ‹

The maintenance of it after you've made it is, in his estimate, three to five times more than the lifetime, over the lifetime of the software.

Lemonade Stand
The Biggest Merger Ever | Ep. 050 Lemonade Stand ๐Ÿ‹

Some quotes I liked.

Lemonade Stand
The Biggest Merger Ever | Ep. 050 Lemonade Stand ๐Ÿ‹

It's largely naive nonsense to imagine you can develop software once and then never revisit it.

Lemonade Stand
The Biggest Merger Ever | Ep. 050 Lemonade Stand ๐Ÿ‹

Yet most AI studies stop at, did the AI software developer finish faster?

Lemonade Stand
The Biggest Merger Ever | Ep. 050 Lemonade Stand ๐Ÿ‹

And they just kind of brag about the speed and quality of what's written and don't think at all about, is this even useful in the longterm?

Lemonade Stand
The Biggest Merger Ever | Ep. 050 Lemonade Stand ๐Ÿ‹

And again, with all of this stuff, you can start to imagine how this applies to any industry, right?

Lemonade Stand
The Biggest Merger Ever | Ep. 050 Lemonade Stand ๐Ÿ‹

Not just programming.

Lemonade Stand
The Biggest Merger Ever | Ep. 050 Lemonade Stand ๐Ÿ‹

So they did a cool study.

Lemonade Stand
The Biggest Merger Ever | Ep. 050 Lemonade Stand ๐Ÿ‹

Phase one, they had a whole bunch of programmers add features to an app, some with AI, some without.

Lemonade Stand
The Biggest Merger Ever | Ep. 050 Lemonade Stand ๐Ÿ‹

Phase two, a second group of programmers came in and tried to improve the code from phase one, but they didn't know whether it was AI written or not.

Lemonade Stand
The Biggest Merger Ever | Ep. 050 Lemonade Stand ๐Ÿ‹

So the question is, is it harder to maintain AI software?