Attawalpa

Sadly, that album never got shelved because I left the band and started writing Attawopastoff just before I got sober.

But yeah, that's how I wanted to do it.

It was like, okay, if I have these resources, then why are we just dealing with these guys?

I mean, no offense to the in-house artists at the label, I won't mention, but it was a subsidiary of Universal, so you know.

But yeah, I was like, that's how you do it.

And I think musicians should always be peeking over the wall and seeing what's going on in the art world, you know, or film or comic books or, you know, contemporary art.

Like it's important.

Growing up, I thought I was very cool because I'd read a book, Legs McNeil's Please Kill Me, which is all about the 70s, 60s, 70s, late 70s sort of punk movement from like

lou reed iggy then bowie then sort of stiff bait as well as this band called dead boys rocket from the tombs richard howe like all the stuff that sort of you know malcolm mclaren went and saw and brought it back over here and created the sex pistols look but it was like all done through journalism and interviews it was a really really cool book

And, you know, Andy Warhol's like mentioned a hundred times in that book.

And it made you realize, you know, I looked into those videos of the Velvet Underground playing at the factory and it just, they just look like the coolest band in the world because they had this manager who was telling them to project these amazing visuals while they're playing.

You know, they play for hours at these parties and they just had these like lava lamp sort of visuals behind them in like the 60s.

And I just thought the whole concept and idea of the factory was so cool.

And like when we started doing the Young Knights, like I wanted to make something like that, like bring everyone in, you know.

Yeah, it's important.

It also led me to an amazing book.

I think it's the Andy Warhol Diaries.

I always remember that one thing he says about if you bump into someone on the street that you don't want to see, you don't want to stop and chat, as Larry David would say.

And they're like, what have you been up to?

And they get you with that.