Aubrey Marcus
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Aubrey Marcus Podcast
Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
Alexandre Tanu is a multidisciplinary master who has dedicated his life to understanding the secret truth and geometry of both sound and creation. And he weaves these both together in an experience that is unlike anything I have ever experienced in my whole life.
Aubrey Marcus Podcast
Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
Reel.
Aubrey Marcus Podcast
Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
Yeah, I mean, there's, again, this is similar to, you know, in the sound meditation that you offered, you know, you were doing this overtone singing, like, regularly with the other instruments and things, and it was tuning me to truth. And I was receiving tuning externally, but by creating it, I'm creating my whole body's vibrating in another way. So there's an even...
Aubrey Marcus Podcast
Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
almost a heightened sense of potency than even just receiving the sound, which is powerful and very important. But when you're generating the sound, and then my whole head started vibrating in that tonality, and then so it changed the state of my consciousness. I could imagine being in a triggered state of consciousness or something that was like I'm very frustrated by something.
Aubrey Marcus Podcast
Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
Just take a breath to go into that overtone singing. I would imagine that I would emerge from the other side of that chanting with a different state of consciousness.
Aubrey Marcus Podcast
Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
I never thought of it that way. Of course it makes sense.
Aubrey Marcus Podcast
Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
Mm-hmm. wow well we've gone almost uh three hours now and uh this i think we could go another 12 pretty pretty easily it's been one of the you know great treasures of my life to share my home and share the space and you know receive actually the harmonics that you carry within you naturally we all carry with us Yes. But your instrument is particularly well-tuned. Anyone can do that.
Aubrey Marcus Podcast
Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
And I appreciate you saying that because that's the point, is that we can all become the perfectly tuned instrument with our own timbre, you know, as well. And that's the pathway that we're all on. So I think you mentioned it before, you have the website Sound Meditation. Anywhere else people can go?
Aubrey Marcus Podcast
Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
The state of wonder and awe.
Aubrey Marcus Podcast
Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
Amen. Amen. Thank you so much, brother. So much love. It's been such a pleasure.
Aubrey Marcus Podcast
Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
We're all doing our best, no doubt about it. We love you guys, and we'll see you next week.
Aubrey Marcus Podcast
Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
Or make science the new spirituality.
Aubrey Marcus Podcast
Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
There's wildly erotic poems. There's fierce protective poems. There's divine fatherly loving poems to the son that I'm going to have. There are poems with the fierceness of a warrior who is standing for what is good. This is a snapshot into the inner sanctum of my own heart.
Aubrey Marcus Podcast
Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
So your health challenges were the force function to get you to change your consciousness radically.
Aubrey Marcus Podcast
Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
I've experienced something similar, actually, that wasn't a health challenge, though, but it was... I've been getting more and more forced. I've created situations in my life where I'm getting more and more forced to where there's only one choice. And this crystallized in a sound meditation that you offered.
Aubrey Marcus Podcast
Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
Which this sound meditation that you offered to myself and Violana and some of our family, it was so tuned to truth that there was no other room for any distortion. Everything that you did. And I want to talk about the way that you tune music to truth and you tune and what we've done with music itself and the power of that. That's a whole big thing that we got to open up in this podcast.
Aubrey Marcus Podcast
Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
But to get to where my point was going, I'm a very sensitive being. It's my superpower, but it's also my kryptonite. I feel everything a lot, and I'm becoming more and more sensitive, actually, as time goes on. As my heart opens more, I'm more and more sensitive to other people's energy.
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Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
Where somebody, especially one of my beloveds, they shut down their energy and it feels like I'm in a frozen, frigid tundra, like ice storm. It's like I feel it intensely. And so it's putting my own nervous system in this state of constant, when's the next emotional storm that I'm going to have to weather?
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Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
And then there's other things that are going on that have complexity and disappointments and friendship betrayals and different things that are happening. And it's become, it's come to the point where it's actually absolutely untenable for me to continue with the operating system that I had.
Aubrey Marcus Podcast
Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
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Aubrey Marcus Podcast
Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
And then I was listening to you play your music and also listening to the Sufi mystics recordings of the Sufi mystics. crying their love for God in the pure form, masculine voices mostly, though the feminine voices were also very important, but the masculine voices crying their love for God in this purity. In Farsi, I think they were singing. And I realized like, aha, I get it.
Aubrey Marcus Podcast
Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
The safe place for your heart is with God. It's with God and truth. That's the only safe place for your heart. And to know that your heart is always connected to God. It will never leave. There's nothing that will sever that connection. The love is ever-present and eternal. And yes, all of these people can love you, but they're all human.
Aubrey Marcus Podcast
Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
And every time we try to outsource our reflection of God to another person, that person is bound to let us down. If we put... God the father into our dad, our dad's going to disappoint us and we're not going to believe in the father anymore.
Aubrey Marcus Podcast
Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
If we put the belief in the mother, the divine feminine into our mother or our partner, they're going to ultimately not be able to live up to the pure divinity. They're human. They're human. So are you, right? So like the safe place for my heart, there's no other safe place. But to be completely, completely devoted, devoting my heart to God.
Aubrey Marcus Podcast
Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
That's the only way that I've found. And I'm just, it's new. It's like a new thing. I've always had a connection to God, but it was like, no, you got to go all the way. And it was like kind of this born again moment, honestly, where it was like, this is the safe place. This is the safe harbor that I've been looking for my whole life.
Aubrey Marcus Podcast
Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
Because then no matter what happens, even all the existential risk stuff. Yeah, of course. I want to do my best to, you know, protect the world and myself and my family against suffering and pain. But also my heart's always with God in one way or another. Like it's all going to be okay.
Aubrey Marcus Podcast
Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
We have an amazing audiobook recording, and you can buy the book on Amazon there as well, and also an e-book. So for those of you who haven't gotten it already, I hope you guys enjoy my book, Love to the Seventh Power, All Poetry Comes from Love. I've always been a collector since I was a kid, whether it was sports cards, magic cards, comics, stamps, or coins.
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Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
During my 11-year tenure with Onnit, we created a lot of revolutionary formulas, none more revolutionary than our flagship AlphaBrain. It's a product that I take every single day, still, to this day. And then after I sold Onnit in 2021, I came across a particular ingredient.
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Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
It's a metabolite of caffeine, which means that it's something that the body naturally breaks caffeine down into, and it's called paroxanthin. And then I found that ingredient, and I said, huh. This is doing a lot of what I wish caffeine would do, but it's not having the negative effects that I experienced with caffeine.
Aubrey Marcus Podcast
Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
It's making me feel more alive, more energized, more clear in my mind, but it's also not sending me down that caffeine roller coaster. And then I said, huh, what if we surrounded this with the best natural ingredients to create a really revolutionary formula? And we did it. And so I created a new company called Correct with a K, housed on correct.life, called Correct Energy.
Aubrey Marcus Podcast
Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
And it's absolutely as much of a revolution as Alpha Brain ever was. AlphaBrain worked on the acetylcholine neurotransmitter designed to give you more focus and this works on the dopamine pathway which is really like the go mechanism for the body.
Aubrey Marcus Podcast
Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
So whether you're working out, working hard, writing, anything that you're doing, playing with your kids, correct energy is going to be an absolute revolution in how you're able to interact with life and with the vim and vigor and passion that you know is truly you. One of the things about this product is it just feels like you have more of you available. It doesn't change who you are.
Aubrey Marcus Podcast
Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
It doesn't change your mindset. It just gives you more of the best of yourself. So if you're interested, check it out at correct.life.com. Do you think that one of the causes of this is, so let's say you're a people living in the coastline somewhere and all of a sudden the flood comes and you're like, what the fuck, where did this come from? And there's a cognitive dissonance of like this.
Aubrey Marcus Podcast
Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
I don't understand where this came from. So you can either be angry at this external force, but it seems like a natural thing that just happened. It just happened to you. So, um, You try to make sense of it because we need to feel like there's a just cosmos, like there's a desire for coherence in our understanding of fairness and like this is right.
Aubrey Marcus Podcast
Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
And so we internalize it and say, ah, it must have been my fault. I wasn't pious enough. I did something wrong. I wasn't, I didn't do this, you know?
Aubrey Marcus Podcast
Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
Self-flagellation. So it's my fault. And you see this in a lot of abusive patterns, even with parents and children or domestic partners. Like somebody abuses somebody else and they say, oh, it's my fault. And even if they know better, there's some part of you that thinks like, oh, I'm bad. And that's where shame comes. Like somehow I deserve this.
Aubrey Marcus Podcast
Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
And as I've gotten older, I've transitioned to collecting original art. I also believe in precious metals as one of the safest and most stable stores of wealth. The impossibly cool thing about my new company, Metal Mark, as part of the Aubrey Marcus Collective, is that it combines both of these things that I love.
Aubrey Marcus Podcast
Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
And then you can start to hate yourself and turn all of that inward. And it becomes a drama. It becomes a drama.
Aubrey Marcus Podcast
Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
There's a saying that I just want to see if you resonate with this, that a healer is someone who can heal you. A master is someone who teaches you how to heal yourself. And a mystic is someone who reminds you you're already healed.
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Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
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Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
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Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
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Aubrey Marcus Podcast
Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
The tuning of our bodies to truth based on the actual natural harmonics of the universe is something that's had a profound impact on my life. And tapping into his body of wisdom will help clarify so many things, both in the resonant field of our bodies and our minds. So I can't wait to share this podcast with Alexandre Tanu. Before we get started, a word from our sponsors.
Aubrey Marcus Podcast
Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
And you're pointing to your head and your heart for those listening to the audio.
Aubrey Marcus Podcast
Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
Well, I mean, this is the other strategy, right? So I talked about the strategy. If you're feeling a lot, what is the safe harbor to put? And so the mind, I think, tilts towards one or two different directions. I think the neurotic is someone who's constantly feeling and aware of all of the dangers and the pressures and the different things.
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Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
One thing that's important is getting your physical body, your animal, what I call the athlete, you know, comfortable with pain. Yeah. And so intentionally going and doing hard things, cold, heat, sweat lodge, ice bath. Challenging it. Challenging it and just showing that it's going to be okay. You can make it through this pain is going to be okay. Like don't, you don't need to fear the pain.
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Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
So there's a, there's an aspect of that. That's like a very kind of young, like train your body to be able to withstand discomfort because pain will pain is something that's like the first fear. And then there's the emotional pain and then there's all of these things. And again, my solution is, The only thing that made sense to me was fundamentally for my heart to stay open, which is my goal.
Aubrey Marcus Podcast
Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
How do I have a fully open heart is to give my heart to God. And so that was one choice. Other choice is armor up.
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Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
and don't feel anything become like a become like a computer yeah like a computer isn't you know screaming in pain if you start to untangle the wires inside or unplug it from the wall yeah you know it's like okay i'm off you know like i'm no longer online no no big deal i don't feel the pain i don't have this self-awareness of in this fear of death
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Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
Get their gnosis involved. And that's what you are, really. Having spent a few days with you, you are somebody who is tuned to the frequency of truth. And what you say is precise. The way you move, the way you play music, the way you... Do everything is precisely tuned to truth, to the best of your ability.
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Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
So humans can make that choice to become like homo armor, which is something my teacher, Rebbe Gaffney says, homo armor, where they're just completely armored up and they're just a cognitive processing machine that doesn't feel anything. But if you're not feeling anything, then at that point, your decision-making process is all off. And it can become quite dangerous to not feel anything.
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Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
That's why they say if it bleeds, it leads. You know, that thing that's the scariest thing. Let's start with that first and then we'll get people afraid and then their fear will give us their attention.
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Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
Right. So the, the thing is, is one, I guess, step one is commitment. You have to commit to the truth, right? Was there a point at which you made a distinct commitment where you said like, all right, there's this distortion here. I could maybe give me an easier road. I could have some, you know, false prizes, some pseudo pleasures with this distortion, but I'm going to choose truth all the way.
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Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
And so, you know, we saw that happen and, you know, it created a phenomenon that, you know, some psychologists would call like a mass formation.
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Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
Where everybody was thinking in the same way. So you have this free-floating anxiety and then this anxiety spreads and there's this fear. There's this new virus. Oh, my God, it's going to kill us all. And then you get this mass formation of fear. And then there's this all of this free floating anxiety. And then you don't know what to do with it.
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Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
So they pointed at a target and say, aha, I know who the problem is. The problem is the anxiety. The unvaxxed, these domestic terrorists. And then the other people are like, oh, the problem is the deep state. Oh, the problem is... But we create these scapegoats. And we've done this throughout time. And that's actually where this scapegoat idea comes from.
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Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
There was a goat that was sacrificially slaughtered that would be like... We're going to put all the evil that exists, everything, all of the pain, and we're going to execute, sacrifice this goat and everybody will be okay.
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Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
But this is the public lynchings and the public executions and all of this and the persecutions of different ethnicities and the genocides and all of this is because it's like, we're going to take all of this free floating anxiety, all of this trauma, all of this, we're going to project it onto another. And if we eradicate the other, everything will be good.
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Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
But it never works because then it's not actually the source. You're just placing it on something. It might work temporarily as a salve, but then you'll eventually need another scapegoat and another scapegoat. And you'll keep looking deeper and deeper and deeper until your whole society eats itself alive.
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Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
Yeah. And which is, for the audience who doesn't know, it's a lot of work.
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Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
So I spend a lot of time on this. This is a subject of my next book, which feels like the opus that I'm working on, and it's taking forever, and it'll continue to take forever, but it's called You vs. Anti-You, and I take the aggregate names of all of these different forces that you mentioned, and I personalize it. as both wildly personal and completely universal, the anti-you force, this force.
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Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
And when I really track its roots, I start to see that ultimately if all is God, which is what I believe, that's the God that I know, the God that infuses everything, there's also a force that's created that says, I am separate from God. which allows us to have a separate experience and then interact with other forces. But that's fundamentally the first distortion and the first delusion.
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Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
But it's a necessary one to create this reality that we're in. But that lie, so they say, you know, Satan is the father of lies, they say. You know, and I think that points to something because it starts with the first delusion that I am separate from everybody else. Ego, I am, but really what ego means is I am not you. I am something else. And in the Aboriginal culture, they say, nang, nang.
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Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
And they only say that, that's what they say when they're like ready to fight somebody. But otherwise their pronoun is us too, because they're recognizing the collective space that you're sharing with all other people. But this force, I think, that isolates the self, isolated from the field, what I call the field,
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Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
I think really where a lot of these anti-you voices, these dark forces, that's the opening that kind of creates them and then can start to plague the mind. One, it can start to destroy and deteriorate yourself, or it could try to inflate yourself, which is another way of destroying the self. And that's what I saw happen recently.
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Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
to my father, you know, was not able to source the adequate self-love. So he found a voice, this dark voice inside that inflated him and told him all of the things to make him, you know, the next Messiah, the next, whatever else it might be. And he died isolated alone in his madness and psychosis. So this, one of the reasons why I'm writing this book, it's a story about,
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Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
of, all right, I need to go deep into this force to understand it. It took my father's life, and I'm the son, and I'm here to appropriately avenge my father's death. But the death was his own voice, and it's the own voice that we all have inside. It was his personal anti-you. The anti-you is both personal, completely personal, and absolutely universal. So like finding it within ourselves.
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Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
So I've had to find it in myself. And like helping people to find it so that we can actually then see the benefit of it. Because actually it serves a purpose. Because once you're able to see it, it can drive like suffering itself. It drives the evolution of our consciousness. It drives our growth.
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Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
It becomes the worthy opponent, the adversary, hasatan, the adversary that actually allows us to say thank you. Thank you for this contest. Now I'm going to step into a greater level of resonance and consciousness.
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Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
Right.
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Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
well the so suffering is a provision from god to give us the opportunity to grow from that experience yeah right like and if as soon as you have that mindset it's at the root of all stoic philosophy it's the root of samurai philosophy it's the root of So many great philosophical traditions all point to the same thing. It's a provision. Whatever obstacle you have, that's the way.
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Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
You know, I was in a darkness retreat in 2020, and my dad was still alive, but in the depth of his psychosis. It's been years since we've had contact. I would send him an email every year on his birthday and Christmas and different things, but he would never respond to me. But he appeared to me in the darkness. So in the darkness retreat, it triggers this endogenous DMT release. So I had a...
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Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
vision there and my father was reading he was right there in the corner of the room of course the room's completely black so this is a vision open-eyed closed-eyed doesn't matter because everything's black anyways and he's there reading a book and i say to him i say dad what are you reading and he says the book of lies i said why are you reading that book dad and he looks back up to me and he says well
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Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
Because I never thought I was enough. I never thought I was worthy of love. So I had to read the book of lies to tell me that I was worthy so I could love myself.
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Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
And he closes the book and throws it over his shoulder and says, son, like, know that you're always worthy of love, no matter what you do, no matter what happens, you're always worthy of love and you'll never have to read the book of lies. And I was like, I love you, Dad. It was a profound, profound moment. And it points exactly to what you're saying is that he reached for these voices.
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Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
The voices found their opening because he had linked his own self-love to his performance. And when he was no longer able to perform, he was a famous pioneer in commodities trading. But then computers came along and...
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Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
outpaced his own ability to use his one mind against you know other other minds he was able to he had a competitive edge but in the computer world he didn't adapt to be able to meld his minds with computer and big information so he lost his edge and so he was losing So his performance, his love was linked to performance.
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Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
When his performance dropped, his self-love dropped to such a critical level that ultimately he was reaching for something that would give him a new level and a reason to love himself. Because the self-love wasn't a priori. It wasn't before antecedent causality, before everything. Right. You know, it was something that was externally validated. And that was the core of his psychosis.
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And of course, the medical world would just want to say, oh, he was paranoid schizophrenic. Give him medication. Yeah, this is just the thing. But yes, it was that, but it was something much more mythological and something much more like psychological, not pathological.
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Whatever challenge you have, that's a provision. Whatever difficulty you're going through, that's your opportunity. And that is like a kind of a truth that crosses all different spectrums.
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They want to rehab you just enough that you get enough of a benefit, but you come back, repeat customer.
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I know this firsthand. I sold my business that I started from scratch, scratched together $110,000 from scratch.
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to you know dear friends and scratched that together and started this business you know was at the very end of that amount of money and then formed a partnership with joe rogan started the company on it ran it for 10 years sold it and you know i had little pieces of money and you know some salary and some things that were coming in so i was okay but i wasn't like
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wealthy i was just money was in money was coming out always always like in and out in and out and out i was always looking to know like what the next you know disbursement would be that would cover this next thing and so i was in this kind of constant state of scarcity then all of a sudden wham this huge lump sum of money comes into my bank account and you would think at that point i would be like ah i'm safe i've have plenty of money but it didn't happen
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It never happened at all. That's the fucking crazy part. Yeah. Is like, I still couldn't shut off the reptilian scarcity brain. And so I made decisions still based on scarcity. Oh, I got to put this money here and invest it in all of these things. And I was in such a hurry to do this thing because, oh, well, now I don't have a business anymore. So I don't have a salary. So money's going to run out.
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So now I got to create... And I was looking at myself and I'm going like, what is going on? And now I can look back and just see, oh, I never took the time to turn off that reptilian brain and actually take a moment to pause and be like, okay, I'm good. I'm safe. Let me put this in places and let me create a lifestyle where I'm safe.
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But instead, I created another situation where I would get into a state of frenetic energy to create more. And I look back now and be like, wow, that was an interesting trip that I took.
Aubrey Marcus Podcast
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Where, how, why is it that collectively we got so lost? Go back and tell us a story. Tell us a story of where we lost our way.
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Yeah.
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And then we have 60% of people with some kind of chronic disease.
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And here we are.
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A lot of milk and cows. The one tool that you've gone incredibly deep with, you've gone incredibly deep with many different tools, consciousness, technologies of all sorts, including the right ideas, the right understandings, the cleaning of words, you know, which I think is a very important process, which is to clean the words to mean actually what they're intending to mean.
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Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
So it's not to diminish any of these other tools. aspects of this multifaceted project that you're on. But music is a particular expertise where you have a particularly unique kind of site that I haven't heard anybody else really talk about. And I was able to experience the profundity of actual harmony in music and how that can tune us to truth.
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Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
based on the natural law and the mathematics that were actually contained within the music that you were offering. And so I want to talk about that and where we've gone wrong with music and why that has ripple effects, because music has the power to actually tune us back, tune our own instrument. Yeah.
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back to truth yeah and then allow the distortion to actually the distortion can't hold you know in a in the in truth a lie cannot be held you know in love fear cannot be held you know like when you actually tune back tune the instrument back to the right frequency then all of these other things start to fall away and music seems to be one of the most potent tools to be able to do that
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We all have this innate sense that love is the most powerful force in the universe and in our own lives. And yet we only have one word for it. Well, the ancient Greeks had seven. Eros was erotic love. Mania, that obsessive love. Pragma, that rational love. Storge, that parental love, philia, the brotherly love, philautia, self-love, and agape, universal love.
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Which is the sacred geometry, the sacred harmonics, the whole thing.
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It's the Tao that's older than God in many ways.
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Right.
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Psychedelics, Harmonics, & A Technique Better Than Any Meditation w/ Alexandre Tannous #494
That births the 10,000 things, but it's the source that births the 10,000 things.
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And then you go back to the pre-Diluvian cultures. Pre-Diluvian culture. Ancient history. Atlantis.
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And that's one of the more benign effects that you actually see. What's more malignant, I think, is when it's not just, I want to shine and I want to be in my radiance. It's, I want to be more radiant than you. I want to shine more than you. And it's in the comparative nature of it. Because I think it's actually healthy for all of us to want to allow our unique essence to shine. Yes.
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To be the most—it's like my job to be the most Aubrey I can be, your job to be the most Alexandre you can be. In fact, it was Jesus' job to be the most Jesus he could be, which ultimately yielded his Christ consciousness, if you believe the story as it's been told. But that's the beautiful way to tell the story. Same with Enoch. Enoch became so Enoch that he was metatron, walking so close to God.
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But it's through— the prism of ourselves. So yes, but connected to others and not comparison and trying to be better than anyone else. Like that's where it gets malignant. I think like, and so one, yes, there's a desire to shine. Okay. Beautiful. But the moment you're like, I want to shine more than you, or I'm better than you, or my ideas are better than you. My ideologies are better than you.
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My, I'm more good than you. That's where things get really malignant.
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Do you believe that that's entirely true? Do you think that there's some people who are intending to do their worst?
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So even in the most intentional malice, like what you're saying is, you know, forgive them for they know not what they do.
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To me, this is, you know, this is part of like when you offered your sound meditation, it's not just about the sound you're playing. And I also want to talk about how we've gotten wrong with the harmonics because we still haven't gotten there to that issue, which is important that we get to.
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As obviously we could keep these microphones going for days and continue to continue to talk about everything. The one thing that I think you represent in this, in the logos of who you are, which was so profound, which was the undercurrent thing.
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beneath the music you were playing and beneath everything else is the precise attention to harmony and resonance with truth which you know for those people listening they might be like why is he continuing to be so concerned about words right when really what you're saying is that every little attunement to truth matters like every single thing matters and that's the
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That's the big takeaway that I've gotten from the time in your presence is the meticulousness and patience by which you go through every little thing. And one might think like, whatever, we use whatever word we want. We got such a problem. We just need to fucking solve it. You know, call them plants, call them fungus, call them whatever the fuck you want. Doesn't matter. We have a problem.
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We got to fix it. But that's part of that panic mentality. And what you're saying is slow the fuck down.
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Pay attention. Even if it's the 11th hour, one minute left, you know, slow is smooth. Smooth is fast. Go slow. Be poised. Be true. And then actually trust that that resonance that you're creating works. will create the harmony that you're looking for. And so like that's for those people who are like, why is it, but why is he so, but this is how, this is who you are.
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This is like a deep encoding of the medicine, which was why it had such a profound effect because you as an instrument are tuned to the meticulousness of truth in every, in every action and word or sound that you make.
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Now, what we did to music... Yeah, I mean, the fundamental idea is in science you control all other variables by isolating one variable. Yes. Which is the absolute opposite about how any complex system works in the universe, which is we're all interconnected. It is impossible to isolate variables.
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It's impossible to isolate one plant in the rainforest. It's impossible to isolate one fungus from one... It's the entourage. It's the whole thing, right? And it all works in the complexity because of the inherent logos, the sacred geometry, the natural law that occurs that's always there and ever-present. But science, in its attempt to isolate different components from everything else...
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Yes, you can learn something about that component, but you only learn a limited amount of information because that component's always in relationship to other components. Same with values and ethos and morality. Like, if you isolate one value over and then just don't weigh that in the field of value... you're going to go way off course, right?
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Like if honesty, let's take honesty, and this is a slight divergence. I want to get right back to your thread. But like just talking about the field of value is something also my teacher, Rebbe Gaffney, and I talk about a lot is, all right, let's say honesty is a value. Sure, of course it is. Now, let's take the movie Inglourious Bastards and you have the Jew hunter in your house.
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Well, you don't tell him, oh yeah, I got Jews in the basement. You lie. You lie. Because there's another value, which is the protection of life and goodness that actually at that point supersedes. So every value is relative to the other fields of value that are there. And that's what the master has to do.
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And that's what actually the good scientist or the good doctor does is they look at everything in relationship. Yes, you can isolate the thing and say, this is beautiful and it's pure form. And yes, There is no such thing as the pure form isolated from the rest of the whole. It's all connected.
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Yeah, like what Rumi says, that you're not a drop in the ocean, you're the ocean in a drop. And also when you shift perspective from the small individual eye to a larger eye, which I think the ayahuasca, the eye of consciousness of ayahuasca is actually connected to the complexity of the jungle itself. It is like Gaia.
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So it's like a Gaia level consciousness which exists within us, but also that perspective will offer a different viewpoint to your life.
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And so it creates the sense of this is separate, but it's really just a shift of identity.
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To a more holistic identity.
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And each of these tones of love have their own characteristics. And I ultimately realized that all of the poetry that was pouring out of my heart came from love. But it was through these different fractals mediated by these different types of love that my poetry was actually emerging. So all of that came together in my new book, Love to the Seventh Power, All Poetry Comes from Love.
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Now, just so I understand, you know, so... I'm playing an instrument. Let's say I'm playing the didgeridoo. I'm not a great musician by any stretch of the imagination, but I actually have developed some limited capacity to circular breathe, and so I can keep the didgeridoo going.
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It's playing in a particular harmonic based upon the size and length of the didgeridoo and the shape of my mouth, etc., But these live instruments that you're playing, you know, the harmonics that are created from those feel to be like beneficial, helpful, true. And is that fair to say?
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Yeah.
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That's a, that's a, that's a big question, but just so like for people who are following here, this, what you're talking about is this like kind of post diluvian, which means flood post diluvian traumatic injury collectively. Exactly. So like PDTI, post-diluvian traumatic injury. Exactly. That happened, which flipped us into our reptilian brain epigenetically through multiple generations.
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Right.
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So let's give people some things. It's been such a beautiful conversation going, but let's give people some practical things that they can do because there's ways that you can hum, chant, et cetera. Yes, that's a great idea. You started with aum. So I know you can go deep.
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We could probably talk for an hour about aum and what that means and the vowels and the consonants and how that shapes reality and everything. But maybe touch on that briefly, but then that's one way that we can actually get back into resonance, that particular type of chant. So why is that one important? Why is it important that it's Aum, not Om?
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And every other consequent, you know, action that was taken... Let's say you're, you know, I don't know, some Celtic druid out there. And then all of a sudden the Roman Legion comes with fucking wolves and flaming arrows and they go to conquer you. Or let's say you're, you know, a Jew, you know, in Germany in 1904. All of these, whatever, you can take a million stories. Mm-hmm.
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Let me see if I can do this. I have a very difficult time actually matching any tones, but I can create a tone, but I can't have a difficult... Okay, so I'm going to go through all the vowels and try and keep the same tone.
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Yeah, I think for me, it's just the comfortability to find what is my natural tone.
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My mid-range, natural. This is the natural tone. And a singer can sing naturally in many different tones. Precisely.
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So many traumatic stories, all of these just further imprint this, you know, tendency towards this kind of neurosis and fear and what's coming out to take me out next. Where's this going to go? And it self perpetuates. Yes, exactly. From, from this, you know, original, original place.
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Or if they wanted to hide or conceal, they would speak in Latin to people who couldn't understand Latin. So then they were the ones who had access to the divine law and everybody else had to follow the common law, but they had a special set of rules.
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So if ever they wanted to change the common law and do whatever the fuck they wanted, they could just speak something in Latin and say, I'm getting the logos from somewhere else.
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I hear that people go a little mad.
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Because you just start to hear your body.
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Only God can say God's name.
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All right. That was beautiful. My turn to try. Let's see if I can do it.
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There's a huge divine feminine movement, and I'm absolutely in love with the feminine and revere and worship the feminine. And I also have critiques. What I see is there's this big movement to, I want to be the queen. Well, What does that really mean? I know God has a bad connotation for a lot of people who've had it jammed down their throat and a lot of rules and things that didn't make sense.
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We have the, and then we're cumulatively together, you know, building temples, you know, that are like the old mystery schools, like the Illusinian Mysteries or the Oracle at Delphi or the Temple of Chavin or the Temple of the Hathors. We're really focused on rebuilding these places where people can go to heal and experience what was always available in antiquity.
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You could make a pilgrimage to one of these temples. But these temples are now just ruins at best. You know, they don't still hold the they can if you especially go with Matthias and you can access the old magic of the old temples, you know, so it's not like they don't still have the juice they do. Yeah, but they're all controlled by guards. You know, this is they're not like accessible.
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Except in the rarest occasions where you actually literally bribe the guards and they let you they turn the other way while you do some weird shit. But, you know, for the most part, I think that's another big shared vision. And so, you know, we were looking to, you know, bring those bring those ancient traditions back.
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For sure. I mean, I think there's, you'll see a lot of times where, and this can happen on both sides, but if there's any place where the feminine is kind of cutting off the masculine at the knees, you know, so they're actually trying to step into something, but there's a subtle undercutting gesture, a subtle undercutting joke that is, it's really an establishment of dominance in that place.
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My mom. My mom has loved me unconditionally from the day I was born. And same with my grandma. And you talk about blessings or privileges or whatever, but to have a mom that loves you like my mom loves me, it's indescribable what that'll do for a man. She also had a well-developed masculine side of her own. She was a professional tennis player.
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And if there's any of this power struggle where people are trying to establish dominance, it's not going to work. And it can also happen with the masculine. The masculine can be intimidated by how powerful their partner is, and they can try to undermine that and squash it. And I've seen this play out in both directions. And, you know, I think what's really at play there is a power struggle.
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And if you have a power struggle in your relationship, your relationship is going to have a lot of difficulty. You know, if you're not both willing to serve each other without worrying about who's where the power lies, I think that's a that's a challenge.
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And we it's just become so taken for granted that there's going to be this, you know, power struggle or that somehow the feminine should always be the one with the power. Like I was recently at an event and, you know, someone was introducing me and they were like, And, you know, of course, I want to thank Vailana. You know, we all know who holds the pants in the family.
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And I'm like, why do you say that? Like, why is that the thing that... Do you feel like you have to say that? Because it's not okay for the masculine to be in power? Because you just... This is the trope that the woman always has to be in power?
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well of course not it doesn't make any sense sometimes the woman can be in power but that means she's expressing her masculine role which denies her the ability the full fruition of the feminine which i also think has been you know unnecessarily undermined by culture like the message being given to women is you got to go out there and achieve and you got to be the boss babe and make your first hundred million and do all that but that's fine great go for it and i love that we have a world where you can
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where it's fully possible. You know, I just interviewed Cody Sanchez. She's freaking killing it. She's dominating, you know, the business and that's awesome. You know, but also, you know, in her own, I don't, I haven't spent time inside the relationship, but her partner is a Navy SEAL and like has everything controlled, like really on lock and so many elements of the masculine.
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So really having that deep reverence for each other and knowing who and how it's going to lead without making this assumption that the masculine needs to be stripped of all its power because the masculine is unsafe. And we have a long history of the masculine being unsafe, so I get it.
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And there's a real rise and return of the sacred masculine whose whole entire focus is to protect the feminine and those who are innocent and those who don't have strength. And that's like the full fruition of the masculine is.
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And we see that in all the heroes, you know, the firefighters that rush into a building, the first responders, you know, the soldiers granted the wars that the soldiers are pointed at. I have a lot of questions about, you know, all these wars we've been in, but the heroic act itself, They're fighting for something greater than themselves and willing to put their lives on the line.
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And again, so can women. Women can also be first responders and heroes, but this idea that the masculine is always dangerous and never safe, it's a really bad trope that I think has extended into society. There's other tropes as well. Like if a man is going to have sex with his wife, he's getting lucky. And if a woman is, you know, is going to have sex with her husband, she's giving it up.
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The fuck are we talking about? Is that really how we want to live? Where sex is a chore and it's a man is lucky to get it with his wife. Like, what is that saying about a relationship? But it's in every sitcom and it's in it's just, oh, yeah, I'm going to get lucky tonight. Get lucky tonight. The hell are we talking about? What kind of relationship is that?
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went to the semifinals of Wimbledon, lost to Billie Jean King that year. So, she understands athletics, she understands being fierce and the dedication needed to get better. But on the other side, you know, no matter what, no matter where I went, what I did, how I felt, she just loved me literally unconditionally.
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Yeah, it's there's some crazy stuff there that really needs to be updated.
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I do. I think it's an important way because especially the thing about men, when any woman is present, it's easy to become a little bit more performative. And similarly, I don't know what it's like with women. I'm not a woman, so I can't say, but there could be an element
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of performative nature when the masculine is present it's a different dynamic there's a there's a subtly different dynamic now i think you can transcend that where you're actually super comfortable being you know radically vulnerable in front of the feminine but as like an opening stage before you're comfortable i think doing the men's work you know is really important and then once you're once you're fully comfortable whether it's men or women present
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then I think it's actually more valuable to do that work together. So the way I look at it is it's a beginning stage to open up the levels of comfortability in your vulnerability and move beyond any kind of performative qualities that you're trying to show off for the other sex.
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I know, she's the best.
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there's a lot of ways in which a partnership brings about, you know, something really beautiful in a relationship. And, you know, Vi for me really unlocked levels of devotion and levels of like,
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love that you know i hadn't been able to reach before and so i really i think what she's what she offers is an opportunity for me to step into ever greater and ever deeper love and i think one of the other elements of this is like what are the
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what are the technologies, the intimate erotic technologies that you're using to make sure that your eros, your sexing doesn't do what, you know, if you read Dr. Wednesday Martin's book, Untrue, you'll see all the graphs where actual sexual desire for a woman falls off a cliff after about two and a half years.
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And that's a word that people throw around, but until you experience it, it's just a fiction. But I've really gotten to live that and that's allowed a lot of my own feminine side to flourish.
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Yeah. So the actual desire starts to fall off and men's desire starts to taper off a lot more slowly, but the graphs look different. And so this is what happens naturally unless you actually learn the ability to find what Rebbe Gavney would call the stranger in your partner. So it's like locating the stranger again, a new level of depth where you see each other with fresh eyes.
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And so these are the kind of tantric technologies
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that you can bring where you can meet each other at a whole new level of depth and so instead of going out and seeking novelty in an affair or getting in this perpetual you know serial monogamy thing where you're just there for the first limerence ride where you're getting to know somebody and then once you reach that point you're sick of them and then you break up and then you do it again
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But if you can actually apply some technology to that, you can go deeper and deeper and deeper. And, you know, I think that's one thing that Vi and I have really put a lot of focus on.
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Well, I mean, I've always been pushing the edges, right? So I was very public about a polyamorous relationship that I had for about eight years with my former partner, Whitney Miller.
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And we decided to, after about a year and a half, we decided that we were gonna open the relationship and be polyamorous because it made sense to me from both anthropological records that I'd looked at from Chris Ryan's book, Sex at Dawn. I was like, oh, there was a different way that things can be and could be.
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And it feels right for my own heart, my heart that is like the sun and feels like it could love universally and I could fall in love with many people. So I went into that and I was the first to have another separate lover and I was like, this is great. And Whitney was like, this is terrible.
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And then I didn't have near the compassion that I should have because as soon as she took a lover, I went into like the most despondent jealousy. And so, you know, that's been one of the big crucibles for me. You know, everybody wanted to plaster this idea like, oh, Aubrey the Cuck, Cuck Norris over here, he's getting off on this. And it's like, I wish, man, I wish. But it was hell.
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I think it set me up with a good foundation. And then, of course, all of the practices that I do, they unearth the truth of your feelings. So I've been on the psychonautic medicine path for 20, hell, 25 years.
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And I had to sit in the fire of that hell. until I could actually burn away the jealousy and understand that I'm not actually in competition with anybody in that level. I can compete on the basketball court, but other than that, nobody can be Aubrey Marcus and nobody can be whoever that other lover might be. So there's no competition.
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We're our own unique self and our unique irreducible essence is what makes us attractive in the first place. So it's really taught me to love and appreciate myself and just measure myself according to how much Aubrey-ness I'm able to step into. So, you know, that relationship kind of established a lot of that.
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And then, you know, Vi and I have discussed that we have also, you know, something of an unconventional relationship. It's not polyamory, but it's not, it's not the traditional type of relationship. And it continually pushes the edges about like, what is, you know, what is possible. And so that's, you know, it's hard. It's work. It's beauty and it's exciting and it's challenging.
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But if you go into that with the desire for growth, if evolution and the ability to transcend your own jealousy and understand your own unique irreducible essence and really trust that, if you go in with that mindset, it can be really, really a valuable tool for growth and also to experience the beauty of life.
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you know, spirituality, I don't think is really optional. So I don't, I think we've made this like, oh yeah, you can, or you can't, but God is, God is, God is like, this is a, this is something I know to be true. So to just ignore that God is call it great spirit, call it the universe, call it the Tao, call it, you know, the Buddha, call it the Christ, whatever you want to call it. But
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I know God has a bad connotation for a lot of people who've had it jammed down their throat and a lot of rules and things that didn't make sense. I started my life as an atheist, but in 25 years of plant medicine, I have no doubt. I don't believe in God, I know God. It's not a question.
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So if you're living in the world and you're denying something that is true and the fundamental nature of that truth that moves in you as you, through you and beyond you, I don't think you can experience the real full spectrum of the healing.
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Sure, you can do some psychological trauma work, et cetera, but until I believe you're able to connect with spirit, with God, there's going to be so much that you're going to leave off the table and your life just will not be nearly as rich.
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And in those 25 years, whether it's breathwork, which always brings the tears and emotions, or whether it's ayahuasca, or whether it's in the huachuma from the Chavin tradition, or bufo from the Siri tradition, or
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for yourself or humanity through psychedelics i mean there's been hundreds i bet there's been hundreds it started with my very first one um that was 18 years old and my dad your first one was 18. yeah wow i'm 43 now so that's why it's 25 years so i went to see a shaman in new mexico i was terrified an atheist yeah but i trusted my dad and i was curious enough i always had a deep curiosity
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So, you know, I said, yes. And I was like, all right, I'm going to do this. And I was so scared. I remember I grabbed a worn river rock from a pathway and I brought it. And I was like, as long as I hold this rock, I'll know that I'm still here. And it was a combination of MDMA and a psilocybin tea. And so I experienced this guided by a shaman.
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She wouldn't call herself a shaman, more of a sitter, but really she was, you know, shamanic in her ability to hold the space. And I experienced my body evaporate and the only word that I could use for what remained was my soul. And so I experienced my soul self, my higher self, my God self. I experienced that for the first time. And I remember staying up, you know, being warmed by a fire.
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I was in a small, small little hut in the mountains north of New Mexico. and just writing and writing and writing and like re-understanding the entire paradigm of what is this crazy existence that we have.
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And then subsequently through, I don't know, some 45 ayahuasca experiences, iboga experiences, huachuma experiences, DMT experiences, bufo experiences, like all of the great tons of mushroom experiences, all of these different traditions guided by some of the very best in the world.
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whatever the great traditions i've been working with these medicines really help open your heart and your feeling body because anything else is actually not who we are we are emotional beings and there's a place where it's important i think for the masculine to be able to bracket those emotions
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it's unlocked new ways to look at life and then i combine that with you know sitting down with the mystics and those who really understand you know understand things from their traditional lens so whether it's the tibetan buddhist tradition or Currently, I'm deep in study with the wisdom of Solomon and understanding like those codes from there, deep reverence for the Taoist codes.
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And so just synthesizing all of the best and actually recognizing there's so much more to understand and available there in these sacred texts and traditions when you can feel it for yourself.
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Eighteen.
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Yeah, he started. So he was in a battle his whole life. And he had some real darkness that was haunting him. And so he tried everything to try and release that darkness that was hunting him and haunting him and taunting him. He went into a modality called primal therapy and he had this big padded room and he would just go in there and yell and scream. But that didn't really work for him.
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It brought a lot of the anger to the surface, but it didn't transmute it in the full way. So he moved from that and then he started working with actually the legendary Stan Groff. And through Stan Groff, he did the holotropic breath work, which helped him a lot. But then there's the next level, which is the psychedelic work. And then so...
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through that kind of underground railroad of shamans that have always been available. He started working with her and then sent me on that journey myself.
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The deepest truths are the hardest to actually abide by. And so things get real, things get actually much simpler, but much more difficult on the path. So you take, you know, Ram Dass' teacher, Maharaj, you take him and what was his advice? Love everyone, tell the truth.
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Like, if things are going awry, you have to be able to just take decisive action and then feel what's necessary later. Like, if things come into, like, significant conflict, like, I was attacked with my fiancé at a time by four guys who surrounded my car, and it's not time for me to be emotional. At that point, it's time for me to fight.
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Okay. Like that's something that you will spend your whole lifetime trying to actually live by. How can you really love everyone without beyond the judgment? And that doesn't mean giving up your discernment, but knowing that even beyond the discernment, even if you're creating a boundary,
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that you still love everybody outside that boundary so can you really love and as as christ said love you know love your enemy you know and love your neighbor as yourself because it's a recognition that that that brother or sister is yourself just living a different life yeah so that is something that's a continual message that's like okay all right i'll continue to work towards that
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And then tell the truth. Oh, okay. Well, you know, there's levels of truth, you know, because sometimes you may be telling the truth, but it's actually not the truth because you have so much you can't see that's in your own shadow. And so to actually tell the truth is something that is also very difficult. Now, I have a formula to assess whether you're telling the truth or not.
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Truth barometer. So here's the formula. It's... Honesty, which gets a total of 50 points. And so the goal is to get to a hundred. So if you're gonna bring it, you're gonna bring it to a hundred, right? So a hundred percent.
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So honesty is a score out of 50 points. So how honest are you? Love, how loving are you? That's another 50 points because I don't think you can divorce truth from love because love, truth and God are actually synonyms as far as I've come to know it. So you get 50 total points of love. So you add those together in a bracket and then you multiply it by your percentage of certainty.
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How certain are you that that love was at maximum? How certain are you that that honesty was at maximum? And then you get a number. So maybe you were, you know, 45 out of 45 out of 50 honest. You kind of said everything, but not exactly. So you get 45 and then your love, you're like, it was pretty loving. It was 40. So you're at, you know, 85. And then oh man, I don't know.
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I don't know how much I don't know. So maybe my percentage of, of the, of certainty is, you know, 80%, you know, so then you end up with some number and like, all right, well, I was about 65% true. I was at 65 out of a hundred points. So it's just, but it's a model to, and of course you're just estimating this based upon your own assessment, but to understand that it's, It's difficult.
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It's difficult to tell the truth, you know, and you can't divorce truth from love. And so to be in truth is to be in love and then to also be honest and then to recognize our own fallibility and our own levels of ignorance of that which we don't know and how certain we actually are.
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I started my life as an atheist, but in 25 years of plant medicine, I have no doubt. I don't believe in God. I know God. So if you're living in the world and you're denying something that is true, and the fundamental nature of that truth that moves in you as you through you and beyond you, I don't think you can experience the real full spectrum of the healing.
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You know, I was walking across the street, this guy got hit by a truck and smashed his head in the pavement. It's not time for me to cry and be out of control. I had, you know, ripped off my shirt, tied it around his head, held him, had somebody call the ambulance. Like, you gotta be able to do both. But then certain other times, you know, you just got to allow yourself to fully feel.
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I think it's the time. I think this is the era of honesty. I really think this is time. We've gone through a period of so much social pressure where if you have a dissonant opinion to the public and to the technocratic overlords, you could get your accounts removed, your posts removed, descheduled, fact-checked, all of this kind of censorship.
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which taught us internally to censor our opinions and feelings. And I think, you know, we're entering a world in which we're going to be free to express honestly. And I think this is going to be, you know, this is what I see is our own Excalibur. It's our sword. It's the sword of truth and love.
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And I really feel like, you know, one of the places that I can step into is to really try to lead by example there and just get to full honesty. And recognize the difference of when I'm being Aubrey or when I'm playing Aubrey.
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You know, because it's so easy to play the character of yourself.
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And then you have to look back and was like, wait, what was I doing?
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Was that really me?
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Or was I just playing Aubrey?
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It's the only way to intimacy and connection. Let's say you're projecting an avatar. Well, somebody may fall in love with that avatar, but guess what? You're not gonna feel it because you're not the avatar. So you may get somebody to love a projection of you, but you'll never feel it. So the intimacy is never going to be there. So particularly in your romantic partnerships,
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being able to share everything and have that held by your partner, that's really what's going to allow the crucible of transformation to occur. It's like, how honest can you be? And the more honest you are, you know, the more intimate you'll become.
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You know, it's all challenging, I think. If I look back, what would I have done different is I would have enjoyed the process a little bit more. You can get so focused on the goal and the outcome and so afraid of the success that you're experiencing, afraid of it going away.
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I woke up every morning wondering how, and part of this is the function of a CEO, right, is to be looking outside for the dangers that may come. But I was so focused on looking at the dangers that I'd hardly spent the appropriate amount of time being in the joy
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So I think that's the fully developed masculine is someone, and the word I use for that is warrior poet. There's times to be a warrior, there's times to be a poet, and there's times you can be both. But to develop both sides, I think that's the destiny of every man, really.
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of actually doing what I loved and creating that company on it, which was an expression of who I really was, at least on one vector in the total human optimization kind of category. And you're going to have to weather a lot of storms. You're going to have to believe in yourself.
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You're going to have to stand up to people who don't see what you see and then also listen to people who have wise advice. So, you know, I think I learned a lot through my experience in building on it from 2011 to 2021 when we sold, you know, had a huge success. And then I got way too cocky and thought I had the Midas touch and I could do anything.
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And, you know, I've experienced a lot of losses since then. But I've learned a lot from all of those. And so, you know, as I go into this next wave of ventures, there's both a deep humility, but also still having that kind of innocent and pure audacity and vision to say, like, I see what's possible here. And there's something really great that's possible.
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Yeah, I mean, one of the things that people will say is that everything happens for a reason. I think that's only true if you give everything that happens a reason.
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You know, so it's not like, oh yeah, this is exactly how it's supposed to be. No, maybe not, maybe you made a dumb choice and you could have done better. But you didn't. So now what's the lesson you can learn? So it's interesting. It's both. It's a bit of a paradox. Hafiz said, wherever you are right now, God circled that place on a map for you. And if you believe that, then it's true.
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Because if you believe that, then you're like, okay, what can I do from this position that I'm in? Because that's the choice that we have. Can't go back in the past and change anything. But if you say right here where I am, this is where I'm supposed to be. And now let's see where I can go from here.
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Well, I think you have to banish the shame that you have. So there's a difference between guilt and shame. So guilt is the recognition that you did something wrong, that you did something that you could have done better. You weren't compassionate in this instant. You allowed your emotions to get the better. You weren't kind. You weren't loving. You got selfish or greedy. You were dishonest.
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I think there's the guilt in those experiences can be healthy because it's a recognition of, damn, I could have done better. But shame is not that you did something bad. It's that you are bad. Oh, I am bad. And then if you are bad, you can't hold that. You can't hold that. A human being can't hold the feeling of them being bad. So they'll put the shame in the shadow.
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They'll put that thing in the shadow. So it'll be all justifications. It'll be like, well, that person deserved it. Or, well, I was so stressed. Or, well, I was... But if you're able actually to love yourself, love yourself no matter what, allow yourself to repair what you're guilty for and say like, hey, I'm so sorry. Like I could have done that way better.
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But that prevents you from getting into this place of shame where you think that you're really a bad person. And that's something that's unable to hold. And that's what creates and expands the shadow, that which you cannot see. Shame is like the blanket over the sun.
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And so if you're able to love yourself and acknowledge when you're off course or wrong and then repair whatever you need to repair, then you can really move forward in your evolution in a big way. And for the coaches out there, like one of the greatest gifts you can give is to humanize yourself and not pretend that you got it all figured out. Just be like, hey, you know, me too.
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You know, I remember I was in a deep psychedelic journey and I experienced the spirit of Yeshua. who came there and just, I just felt Yeshua's presence there. And I just started expressing all of the challenges, all of everything. It was like, I don't know, some confessionary energy just moved through me and I was expressing all of these things.
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they're going to need to utilize one of these tools you know and there's everybody calls them medicines but they're really technologies and it doesn't require psychedelics so one thing i can unequivocally recommend breath work another thing i can unequivocally recommend ecstatic dance unequivocally recommend sensory deprivation float tanks meditation is beautiful but it's very hard to get into unless you know the reward and the state you're getting to
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And Yeshua was just there in my vision space, just patiently listening. And then He just looks at me and He goes, me too.
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and i was just like oh tears and tears and tears and then there was nothing else to say there's nothing else to say and it was it was like one of the most profound experiences like me too and when we can do that it's also the wisdom of the hawaiian kahunas and the ho'oponopono where whatever you see in another you can locate that thing in yourself and then actually work to heal that thing in yourself to actually heal that
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in the person that you're with. So, these deeper mystical traditions and truths, a lot of them are pointing to this radical honesty with yourself and just acknowledging, you know, like... And I think, you know, for better or worse, I've experienced a lot of the different, you know, challenges. I've experienced jealousy and I've experienced rage. I've experienced addiction.
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I've experienced a lot of these things and I'm comfortable talking about them because I'm not the person I was when I experienced those things. I'm the person who grew from those experiences. So allowing yourself to be almost reborn anew. Another one of my favorite quotes from Heraclitus, no person steps in the same river twice because it's not the same river and not the same person.
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And so just allowing yourself to be free, not shackled by who you have been, but to step into this new life that you are in.
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Yeah. And I think you can also say, that's exactly where I was.
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You know, I'm not what I did.
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At some level, you are what you do. Like, you are what you repeatedly do. But you're not what you repeatedly did. You can change that at any point in time.
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Yeah, that's the paradox.
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Whatever it was, it's worthy of love and you can do better too. And you can still be on that quest of evolution and transformation where you'll be capable of doing more and more beautiful things. So it's not that you're completely divorced from your being and becoming and what you are and what you do.
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That is a part of you, but you're not what you did, not if you're growing, not if you're transforming. And this possibility of transformation, I think, is at the core of any, it has to be at the core of any coach or anybody in any relationship that you hold out the possibility for transformation and you see that transformation in the person.
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So if you're able to see not there, not to freeze them in the difficult moments, their moments of failure or fault. I mean, I think we do that in relationship too. It's like somebody does something that, you know, really hurts you. You can freeze them in that moment. Oh, that's the type of person they are.
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Well, that's something that happened in the past that they did, but there's a possibility of transformation there. And I think that's even with our whole, you know, penal system, like the way that our whole justice system is arranged. It's more like, yes, all right, potentially there's consequences to the actions, but the goal should be, how do we transform?
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You know, how do we rally behind and transform those individuals so that when they leave the prison and when they're leaving the punishment that they received, that they can actually grow and that we give them an opportunity to grow. Like we give them that benefit of the doubt.
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And sometimes, you know, you can't, you know, sometimes things are too deep, you know, you have a, you know, a pedophilic nature, you can't just say like, and just send them into a box for a couple years without any deep therapy and let them go.
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That's, that's silly. So I think we need to just be real honest with what we're doing to help people transform.
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Because otherwise you just feel like you're not doing anything and you're not getting anywhere most of the time. But if you can hone that craft, you can also get there that way. But the sensory deprivation tank really helps drop you into that meditative state. And the breathwork, if you really send it, you're going to feel what needs to be felt.
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Yeah, absolutely. And, you know, one of the things that I've also come to know in my own, you know, 25 years of experiential spirituality is there are dark forces in us, as us, through us and beyond us, just as the divine forces. And these dark forces are both us and not us. And they can seduce us and capture us, you know, in many, many different ways. And to be aware, I call this force anti-you.
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So, in the highest levels, and there's lots of names from lots of traditions. Steven Pressfield, the great author, wrote it and called it Resistance with a capital R. Phil Stutz, the psychiatrist, calls it Part X. The Kabbalists call it Citra-Akra.
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you know the toll techs call it the parasite or the predator you know there's this body yeah there's these we all have this idea but i don't think we give it enough credit that there's a force that will try to pull against our actualization and the closer you are to the actualization the closer you are to the candle the greater the shadow that's cast the greater the energy
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That's pulling you, pulling you away. There's a quote from Virgil, and if you'll pardon me opening my phone because I don't have it fully memorized yet because I just learned it. The gates of hell are open night and day. Smooth the descent and easy is the way. But to return and view the cheerful skies, they're the task, the mighty labor lies.
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So there's forces that'll try and seduce you into a darker path. And to just be aware that there's an opponent in this game of life. And you'll find it in yourself, but you'll find it outside of yourself as well. And if you take that appropriately, it's like Larry Bird and Magic Johnson. They were opponents, but they made each other better.
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And we've guided breathwork and fit for service for six years. And I've almost never seen a man, no matter how many tattoos and how tough they are, not really releasing a lot of tears.
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You know, it's like if you take that, okay, like I see you, you know, I see you devil. I see you anti you. And, you know, we're going to contest. And, you know, if I take that attitude, you will help bring out the best in me. And that's why this force exists in this. Yeah, the contrast to help us grow. You know, it's the iron that sharpens iron.
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And that's one of the great tricks. The great tricks of the dark forces is to try and convince you that it's more powerful than you are. But it's not. God is way more powerful. Love is way more powerful. Nothing can touch. Nothing can touch that energy. So if you really trust that, you're going to be safe wherever you go.
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Yeah, I mean, I think it's always it's always there's always more. Yeah, there's always more. I remember. So, you know, I sold on it and, you know, got a huge, huge payout, like ridiculous, you know, just looked at my bank account one day and was like, oh, my God, like this isn't a crazy amount of money.
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And the interesting thing is, is that I immediately, because there was a sense of scarcity, actually, that I fought with and dealt with, but it was still present, even in that moment of having all of this money. It still didn't feel like... it was like I was gonna be safe and I was gonna be enough. So I started acting out of fear even then and out of scarcity even then.
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And there's studies that show that no matter how wealthy a person is, they don't actually feel safe. They always say, if I just had 30% more money, I'd be safe. So whether they're 10 million, 100 million, a billion, there's some way in which it's not enough because the mind plays those tricks. But if you can actually learn that wherever you are, whatever you have is enough.
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And it does, it applies to spirituality and applies to money, but really this is an attitude thing. And then the abundance that you hold will actually facilitate the growth and the ability to steward more. But that was a key moment for me when I'm looking back and being like, Wow. Like, wow, what was that? You know?
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Every time I've been broken, it's helped me serve others more. You know, when I found myself in the throes of addiction, now I understand anybody who's an addict. If I found myself in the throes of jealousy, now I understand anybody who's jealous.
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If I found myself in the depths of despair and depression and hopelessness, now I understand how I can support people in despair, depression, and hopelessness.
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And, you know, so all of these experiences that you have can then allow you to connect with somebody and be, you know, imitatio Christi, like the same thing that Yeshua said to me, I can do my best to imitate that no matter what someone's going through and say like, yeah, me too. Maybe not specifically me.
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Maybe I didn't experience the same trauma or the sexual abuse or what it is, but I've experienced enough that I can at the very least imagine what you're going through. But in some specific cases, I've actually already been through it.
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And there will be other people, let's say it is sexual abuse, like the people who've actually experienced that, that's gonna be the best person to guide whoever that is through that process. So I'm probably not the best person to guide through that because I haven't experienced it. And, you know, God willing, I never will on either side.
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Yeah, totally. Yeah, I mean, and then, you know, other people would say, oh, you know, I was born a double Pisces and all of these different stars, star signals. But I think that really ultimately I don't give that too much weight. And it could be true because I do represent some of those watery, the watery nature of my emotions. But I think truly it's available to everybody.
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So in this, in this, I think there's, there's a great gift that's hidden in the, in the curse, you know, and I think if you have that attitude, the stoic attitude, the attitude of a warrior, which is someone who's willing to actually, you know, grow from the experience, it can really help you connect to whoever it is you're here to help.
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Yeah. I mean, it's something that's like so obvious. Like imagine you were going to war, like actual war. And you have two different people who are going to be your leaders. One's fresh out of West Point, never seen a day of battle, but knows all the strategy and tactics. Another's some grizzled veteran who's just been in the fight, you know, can wear, wears all the scars.
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You know, this is where the shrapnel hit me. This is where the bullet hit me. This is where my tank got blown up. And this is where... Like you're going to trust that person who's been in the shit rather than someone who's read books about it. Same with, with business.
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Like there's a lot of people who have high degrees of education and MBAs and have studied these things, but I'd much rather trust someone who's actually been in the game and taken the wins and taken the losses because there's just something that you get from experience that you can't get entirely from reading about it.
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Yeah, that's it. And there's always going to be some level of this idea of imposter syndrome is something that prevents people like, well, I don't have the... Of course, if you're pushing your own edges, if you're actually stepping into even greater, you're going to be in somewhat unknown territory.
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But it's like, take the leap, salta mortale, like leap into the void and offer the best you can, but with humility. And that's going to help people more than anything.
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yeah for sure it's such an exciting like period right now so fit for service is coming to a close so that's no longer available i'm starting a new group called the round table which is uh you know there'll be some information out there but it's going to be a kind of a different orientation but there'll be some information if you're curious and those for people who really have a deep desire and the ability to impact the world in a significant way
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When we all impact the world, it doesn't mean that just because you have greater influence, it means you're less important than another person. But in this container, it's about how do we really move culture in the biggest, most dramatic way possible. So it's for people who wanna play big. And that's called The Round Table, coming soon.
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I got a new poetry book, my first one, coming out called Love to the Seventh Power. So that's gonna be out in January. So pre-sales will come up soon. But keep a lookout for Love to the Seventh Power. And if you want to just track everything I'm doing, you can just follow me on Instagram at Aubrey Marcus.
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And you just got to feel it and feel the benefit of it and just understand how much more of life is available to you when you're able to tap into those those more sensitive areas.
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And then my big book, which feels like my opus, even though I wrote a New York Times bestselling book already, this book I feel like is so far, you know, the greatest contribution that I can make. And it's called You Versus Anti-You. And that'll be out, you know, all things go well in late 2025.
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Thank you for seeing me, sis. Yeah. It's been great to get to know you more.
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Yeah, I mean, if you go to life with armor, then you're not only preventing yourself from challenge, you're preventing yourself from bliss. It's a callus that goes over the entire sensory body, so you're not gonna be able to enjoy yourself and you're not gonna be able to feel your emotions. So, you know, this idea of it's important to hold your armor,
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Yeah, it's maybe important to be able to put up the shield every once in a while. But fundamentally, you know, all armor is not, it doesn't differentiate. It's not like, oh, I'm just not going to feel the bad thing, but I'm going to feel all the good things. It doesn't work that way.
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There's going to be so much that you're going to leave off the table and your life just will not be nearly as rich.
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You know, armor just prevents you from the feeling tone of life and prevents you from stepping into this universal love story that we're really in.
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For sure.
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There's a huge divine feminine movement. And obviously, I'm absolutely in love with the feminine and revere and worship the feminine. And I also have critiques of that movement. And what I see is there's this big movement to, I want to be the queen. I want to be the queen. Well, What does that really mean? You know, because there's Queen Elizabeth, and that was a king with a pussy.
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Like, that's what that was. That's why she didn't take a husband to rule with her, because she was the one ruling. And if you have two kings in the house, it's typically not going to work. There's going to be a power struggle about who's leading the way. And you can have a way where you can flip, and both can take that role at certain times.
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But I think there's a conflation between queen and ruling queen, which is really a king. And so there's an aspect of the fully developed feminine, which is in maximum receptivity and is creating this atmosphere of love and peace and forgiveness and joy. And then the masculine element actually leads through that, but requires the nourishment of the feminine.
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The deepest truths are the hardest to actually abide by. Now, I have a formula to assess whether you're telling the truth or not.
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And it doesn't mean that the man has to be the king and the woman has to be the queen, but I think we need to disambiguate these words. so that we actually understand what a queen is. A king is there to be in service of the kingdom, including the queen, to be in absolute devotion and service. The queen is there to be in devotion to the king's service to all.
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And so it works in this kind of bilateral way. But I think it's important to recognize that a queen just isn't a woman king. You know, that there's actually a difference. And it doesn't mean, again, like that you can't swap and play both sides and enjoy the polarity that way. But I think... there's more actual soft femininity available in the goddess and in the feminine empowerment movement.
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Like the most powerful thing that I experience is the softest thing. When I can find the softest thing, then my whole body can relax. And then I can heal and be restored in that in that nature. So, you know, I think that's that's a part of there's so much beauty in what this is. And I think just the understanding of what are you actually looking for? Are you looking to lead?
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Are you looking to have the kingship quality? It's beautiful if you are. But don't confuse yourself in thinking that that's what the queen archetype really is, you know.
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Truth barometer. So here's the formula.
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one way to describe this is circle and line okay so a line has telos in direction you know it has a way it has a direction that it's going a circle is all about the ever-present now the infinite now and the environment that you're in so circles have this very egalitarian no structure of leadership everybody's you know everybody's voice is the same there's so much beauty to the circle
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And the masculine quality is the line, which is saying, well, we don't want to just stay in this feeling thing in a forever ayahuasca ceremony. We want to actually move forward and integrate this into our life. So the right relationship is some balance and where the masculine represents the line, which is forward movement. and the feminine represents the circle.
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Now, the shadow of the line is the line might not ever be feeling what's actually happening in the moment, might not be attuned to what's happening in the circle, might be so focused on leadership that they've lost the qualities of the circle. And the circle, the shadow of the circle is that you just stay in this feeling experience and you're not actually going anywhere.
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You're just retracing your own trauma and your own feelings over and over and over again. but when you combine them then it forms a spiral so a line and a circle combined form a spiral so you're feeling always but you're feeling in this ever escalating spiraling movement forwards
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Of course.
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And then also find the ways that your relationship can accentuate that dance, right? Tell me more. There's certain elements of like... where I will be more extremely polarized in the where are we going? What are we doing? How do we chart this next path forward?
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And so I'll be, you know, in a relationship if I'm super focused on that, then I need some more support within the dyad to be in the circle.
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Right, it allows you to be, if you're all on your own, let's say you're all on your own, you need to have a really, really well-developed sense of both and be like almost in an equilibrium between your masculine and feminine for most of your life. Because you need to be able to feel everything that's going on and you need to also be able to move forward.
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So if you're alone, both of those have to be expressed in balance. If you're in a partnership, it can allow you to express one polarity more. So the feminine could be more in the feeling tone of the circle. The masculine can be more in the line, but together holistically, you create balance in the, in the dyad.
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So it actually allows you to express either more of your masculinity or more of your femininity.
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Yeah, I mean, I think having well-developed, you know, capabilities on both sides, it's a big advantage because if, you know, ultimately I think a relationship should have an overarching mission that you're in together, right? What is your collective mission? I call this the whole mate level of relationship.
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So the role mate or the roles you play, the soul mate, the ability to see each other, the whole mate is sharing a shared vision and facing a shared horizon. And so ideally in my mind, in a relationship, you guys are facing the shared horizon and then having different roles in different ways that you actually are bringing about that shared vision.
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And but then you may have your own individual quests and visions, which will require more masculinity. So like, for example, by Lana, you know, she has the freedom to be in her wild feminine. most of the time because I can hold down the masculine qualities for the relationship.
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And then sometimes when she's doing her series or doing something else, she has to step into her masculine and lead a team and handle it. And I'm there to support in the background, but oftentimes at that point, I'll step into the role of the queen, which is, what do you need? Do you need help? Do you need some body work? Do you need some tea? Do you need some water?
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if there's a very present mission for either partner if you have that flexibility then you can step into their story and help them write their story and i think that's the the healthiest level of relationship but to just remember who's which role and not get confused and it's fine to be both but just understand which role is which and not get confused about what actually is being expressed
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at that time so really if any any of this that i'm offering is just clarification of the fundamental masculine and the fundamental feminine and how to use those energies to stay in balance and bring about the best relationship possible yeah i've never thought of it in this way and i like that there's that shared we the mission yeah and how do you really use that to support greater service greater right wholeness and contribution in the world do you and vi have a shared mission do you
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Yeah. Like, it's super important. And that shared mission is, first of all, to bring about what we believe, you know, from Charles Eisenstein's nomenclature, the more beautiful world our hearts know is possible, a place where everybody can be more free and more loving and more connected to God. And so, how do we help bring that about? Well, Bailana has her sound, I have my podcast,