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Because you don't think that there is a difference between the baby after it's born versus the baby... What's the difference? Okay, because while it is in utero, while the woman is pregnant, it can cause the woman physical harm. It is life-threatening. There are a ton of cases where it can cause all kinds of things to happen, and it is physically hooked up into your body.

Because you don't think that there is a difference between the baby after it's born versus the baby... What's the difference? Okay, because while it is in utero, while the woman is pregnant, it can cause the woman physical harm. It is life-threatening. There are a ton of cases where it can cause all kinds of things to happen, and it is physically hooked up into your body.

It incapacitates you to some extent.

It incapacitates you to some extent.

But you don't think you don't think there's a fundamental difference when they're physically connected?

But you don't think you don't think there's a fundamental difference when they're physically connected?

I don't think so, but do you think... Well, how is it any different than what it's in utero? Because it's not bodily autonomy. Do you think they would have a right to go pull someone random off the street and hook up the baby into that person's bloodstream because the baby would die otherwise? If the NICU machine doesn't exist, what do you think?

I don't think so, but do you think... Well, how is it any different than what it's in utero? Because it's not bodily autonomy. Do you think they would have a right to go pull someone random off the street and hook up the baby into that person's bloodstream because the baby would die otherwise? If the NICU machine doesn't exist, what do you think?

Okay, if the NICU machine didn't exist and you had to pull a random person off the street to save that baby's life... Again, none of that is even remotely relevant and hypothetical.

Okay, if the NICU machine didn't exist and you had to pull a random person off the street to save that baby's life... Again, none of that is even remotely relevant and hypothetical.

I'm not arguing that.

I'm not arguing that.

So I still think, I really don't think it would hurt you to answer the original analogy. I think you see where it would go, that you can't infringe upon someone's bodily autonomy in order to save someone else's life. Do you agree with that?

So I still think, I really don't think it would hurt you to answer the original analogy. I think you see where it would go, that you can't infringe upon someone's bodily autonomy in order to save someone else's life. Do you agree with that?

It is, but the government has the right to do that to uphold the nation, right?

It is, but the government has the right to do that to uphold the nation, right?

How? In the same way as fighting a war?

How? In the same way as fighting a war?

The government's right to be able to do that, I think, needs to be justified by some reason that it affects the government. It doesn't affect the government to terminate a baby in pregnancy.

The government's right to be able to do that, I think, needs to be justified by some reason that it affects the government. It doesn't affect the government to terminate a baby in pregnancy.