Audience Member 2

think that immigration is currently benefiting the U.S., is what you're saying?

think that immigration is currently benefiting the U.S., is what you're saying?

I think that the anti-immigration rhetoric you have is not new. I think that you try to paint a picture of it being this current phenomenon that we're facing, but there's been rhetoric from your side for a long time, throughout the entirety of history. I mean, if we look at the immigration policies in the US,

I think that the anti-immigration rhetoric you have is not new. I think that you try to paint a picture of it being this current phenomenon that we're facing, but there's been rhetoric from your side for a long time, throughout the entirety of history. I mean, if we look at the immigration policies in the US,

Even though Chinese immigrants built the entire Western Railroad, there was still the Chinese Exclusion Act because they were providing insane value to the United States, but we still had these exclusion acts because of xenophobic attitudes. And so this is not a novel idea that immigrants are bad for the country.

Even though Chinese immigrants built the entire Western Railroad, there was still the Chinese Exclusion Act because they were providing insane value to the United States, but we still had these exclusion acts because of xenophobic attitudes. And so this is not a novel idea that immigrants are bad for the country.

So I'm interested in why you think that all of a sudden we need to change the way the United States works.

So I'm interested in why you think that all of a sudden we need to change the way the United States works.

Okay. So you don't think that the MAGA movement has led to xenophobic attitudes at all?

Okay. So you don't think that the MAGA movement has led to xenophobic attitudes at all?

I mean, just like you said, you said, I mean, we're living in a divided world. You don't think that comes from people being anti-immigration?

I mean, just like you said, you said, I mean, we're living in a divided world. You don't think that comes from people being anti-immigration?

If you don't use it. If you don't use it. I don't know that you're committed to finding its strength.

If you don't use it. If you don't use it. I don't know that you're committed to finding its strength.

None, but I'm not saying that we have to get more divided.

None, but I'm not saying that we have to get more divided.

Sure. But I think that what you're talking about, this like mass shift in American culture is like not happening. I think you're fear mongering. And also, I think that the United States forever has been a mix of culture. I don't really know like where you can point to a time in the U.S. history that hasn't included immigrants in its culture?

Sure. But I think that what you're talking about, this like mass shift in American culture is like not happening. I think you're fear mongering. And also, I think that the United States forever has been a mix of culture. I don't really know like where you can point to a time in the U.S. history that hasn't included immigrants in its culture?

We had the Bracero program back then where we brought in tons of laborers from Mexico to the United States to work in agricultural, and that's how we fed the United States. I I really don't think that you can say that.

We had the Bracero program back then where we brought in tons of laborers from Mexico to the United States to work in agricultural, and that's how we fed the United States. I I really don't think that you can say that.