Augustus Doricko

No, I don't know how many exactly.

You wouldn't be surprised to find out they're pretty obtuse about it.

But they have explicitly said, there's a blog post I can send you after this that they published, where by 2030, they want to export this tech, not to be explicitly part of Belt and Road, but to be a means of exerting soft influence over all these countries, right?

Because if China...

owns all the shipping infrastructure, right?

So like shipping and receiving energy infrastructure, that's already huge leverage over East Africa, Europe, the Middle East.

But if you control the water supply, that's a much more consequential thing to have leverage over.

Yeah.

That's... Wow.

They're smart, man.

They're smart.

They are, but I believe in American exceptionalism.

I think that, I mean, for one, what is worth saying is, like, I am not a pacifist, but I really do not think that war is good.

I think a lot of the time when technology companies talk about China, like, they saber-rattle and sort of froth at the mouth at the idea of war because, practically speaking, like, you can get your bags pumped by the U.S.

government funding you to do

you know, weaponization stuff.

I don't like that.

I really wish that we had a rivalry with China, but were less anxious to fight with them.

All of that said, though... I think a lot of that comes from, you know, the stuff going on in Taiwan right now.

Totally, right?