Austen Kroll

You can be like, oh,

That's cool.

I'm also assuming you've opened up to Craig, like you've opened up to us today.

about commitment issues or things that you worry about.

So shouldn't he know that about you and then therefore not necessarily just throw it in your face?

It's tolerated.

I'm curious.

It seems like you think Craig... He's, you know, smart, kind of calculated in a way.

I can be calculated.

It doesn't always mean a bad thing.

So it seems like you can explain why Craig would say something out of pocket.

But have you figured out why Shep ran his mouth the way he did in a way?

Because he should know better too.

And it's more like, it's like, oh, Craig's maybe being Craig and I'm mad at Craig.

But like, why did Shep...

But also to that point, doing a podcast and running a bar completely.

Knowing that you think that at times maybe Craig can be a little strategic, I'm curious what you think Craig's perspective and point of view, his real one, not his on-camera, what he would tell someone if he came on this podcast or an on-the-fly interview.

If you and Craig were just in a room, just you two, no cameras, what do you think his real-life perspective is on your relationship?

There are many people who think, though, going off that social media, that last season, it was the Paige and Craig fallout.

Everything was about that.