Austin Griffith

And the reason you want to isolate it is so that you can give it complete access to the machine.

And OpenClaw is an open source project.

And it's enabling these capabilities at some level because it wants to see what AI can do with absolute power tools and all of the skills and all of the access.

Whereas some of the frontier labs, of course, that's too far on the frontier for them.

I mean, you get into security concerns, you get into privacy concerns.

So they haven't developed these power tools, but the open source community effectively is.

And OpenClaw can be powered by, am I correct?

basically any AI LLM that you want.

So you'd wire this up to cloud and use sort of cloud APIs, or you could do your Kimi or something open source and run it locally.

But it has complete access to whatever you give it access to.

And there's an entire community kind of enhancing it with skills and developing on top of it.

And basically, it's the first thing

It's the first time we've seen independent AI, personal assistant types of entities that have complete access to everything a human being might be able to access.

Is that right?

The CEO of Anthropic always uses this analogy of geniuses in a data center.

What would happen if we added a billion geniuses in a data center?

I think that's the way to start thinking about what's happening with OpenClause.

We're seeing the first...

AI population being added to the rest of the internet.

And these are agents and sometimes they might work in a sovereign way for their humans that are marshalling them and controlling them.