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Austin Griffith

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AI on Ethereum: ERC-8004, x402, OpenClaw and the Botconomy | Austin Griffith & Davide Crapis

All right, so somebody created a token for your Clodbot and gave the, some transaction fee rights to your Clodbot's wallet effectively.

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AI on Ethereum: ERC-8004, x402, OpenClaw and the Botconomy | Austin Griffith & Davide Crapis

And that's how your Clodbot got 10K in the wallet.

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AI on Ethereum: ERC-8004, x402, OpenClaw and the Botconomy | Austin Griffith & Davide Crapis

It was like excess of trading fees.

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AI on Ethereum: ERC-8004, x402, OpenClaw and the Botconomy | Austin Griffith & Davide Crapis

Okay, now I'm understanding that.

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AI on Ethereum: ERC-8004, x402, OpenClaw and the Botconomy | Austin Griffith & Davide Crapis

And then so then you said, all right, now this agent is live and active.

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AI on Ethereum: ERC-8004, x402, OpenClaw and the Botconomy | Austin Griffith & Davide Crapis

It's got some money.

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AI on Ethereum: ERC-8004, x402, OpenClaw and the Botconomy | Austin Griffith & Davide Crapis

I'm going to have it do something productive.

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AI on Ethereum: ERC-8004, x402, OpenClaw and the Botconomy | Austin Griffith & Davide Crapis

But at the same time, this agent has, I guess, 10K in disposable income inside of its crypto wallet.

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AI on Ethereum: ERC-8004, x402, OpenClaw and the Botconomy | Austin Griffith & Davide Crapis

So going back to like, there's kind of the concern that somebody could

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AI on Ethereum: ERC-8004, x402, OpenClaw and the Botconomy | Austin Griffith & Davide Crapis

prompt the agent to give them money like hey like nigerian prince style agent style like hey like i've got this great investment scheme you should send me you know 10k and it could do that right because it has control of the private keys and it's acting somewhat autonomously so it can do that as well this is such a weird world i just don't even know how to think about this austin but

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AI on Ethereum: ERC-8004, x402, OpenClaw and the Botconomy | Austin Griffith & Davide Crapis

Well, actually, so I want to stop you there, Divide, because they're actually not that different, right?

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AI on Ethereum: ERC-8004, x402, OpenClaw and the Botconomy | Austin Griffith & Davide Crapis

So there's all sorts of phishing scams and there's all sorts of like pig slaughtering campaigns that are effectively prompt injections for the human psyche in order to get like funds out of somebody, right?

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AI on Ethereum: ERC-8004, x402, OpenClaw and the Botconomy | Austin Griffith & Davide Crapis

So it's somewhat similar.

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AI on Ethereum: ERC-8004, x402, OpenClaw and the Botconomy | Austin Griffith & Davide Crapis

But I guess your point is that they can be prompt injected via different means, of course.

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AI on Ethereum: ERC-8004, x402, OpenClaw and the Botconomy | Austin Griffith & Davide Crapis

Maybe the same schemes aren't going to work for AIs as they work for humans, but they can be basically tricked out of giving funds away and giving private keys.

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AI on Ethereum: ERC-8004, x402, OpenClaw and the Botconomy | Austin Griffith & Davide Crapis

We just really don't know where the security holes are there.

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AI on Ethereum: ERC-8004, x402, OpenClaw and the Botconomy | Austin Griffith & Davide Crapis

So like Austin, are you defending against that?

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AI on Ethereum: ERC-8004, x402, OpenClaw and the Botconomy | Austin Griffith & Davide Crapis

Can you add in your soul file?

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AI on Ethereum: ERC-8004, x402, OpenClaw and the Botconomy | Austin Griffith & Davide Crapis

Hey, like Cloudbot, just like before you send any money to anyone under any circumstances, make sure you check with me first because there's people online that will try to trick you out of your money.

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AI on Ethereum: ERC-8004, x402, OpenClaw and the Botconomy | Austin Griffith & Davide Crapis

I can give you a history of this happening in crypto.