Austin Griffith

Can you talk about what this is and what it actually does and what the adoption path looks like?

Yeah, talk about that then, because we've done entire episodes on X402.

Okay, cool.

I mean, the way I understand this, this is not too much unlike the way human beings work, really.

But the idea of like reputation and a reason, if you are sort of a cynic, a reason that I wouldn't rug pull you, David, right, is because our business relationship is like fantastic, right?

It's like maybe it's because I'm a good person too.

We all like to think that, but like,

It's also because I want the reputation of somebody that doesn't rug pull his partners.

And the value that you and I can create together is worth a lot more than some sort of rug pull if I just went in our accounts and took all the money.

That would be a bad expected value.

Yes, right.

And it would decrease my economic prospects for working with anyone else in the future, basically.

And so there is a reason why an AI agent's reputation would be far more valuable than any kind of rug pull it could pull off, at least you could think.

And then in cases where it's not,

you have skin in the game, validation sort of incentive.

Actually, Davide, I'm wondering how this works in practice because when it comes to like identity and reputation protocols, at least for humans, we don't really see that in the real world.

And there's also a question of like, why does this need to be a standard?

Is it not the case that

Where I do see sort of reputation schemes in the real world is in centralized providers and they're somewhat fragmented and scattered.

So you might see it in an Amazon five-star review and of course that gets gamed or Google review or something like that.