Austin Griffith

But now I see that this could be even if agents aren't on chain and using kind of cryptocurrencies, let's say, and have, you know, like whatever stable coins and meme coins and all of that's on chain.

There's still a lot of value being created in issuing these agents effectively a passport for the Internet.

and a reputation system attached to that passport, and then some means to validate that reputation.

And so you could see a world of just off-chain agents that still have an on-chain internet native reputation using 8004.

And

I suppose what that would take is wide adoption across maybe some of these frontier labs and some of the big tech companies for them to sort of adopt this standard as the default going forward.

And maybe to your point, maybe they will because, you know, Anthropic doesn't want open AI to control kind of the identity protocol.

And so you have sort of this fragmented game of like, so anyway, maybe this is, am I thinking about this correct?

That this could be far wider than even just like an on-chain wallet and having an agent with access to stable coins?

I guess the way to think of this is back to Dario's comment of, you know, a billion agents in a data center.

Every single one of those agents, those super geniuses in a data center, I think he calls it a country of geniuses in a data center.

The country of geniuses is going to need some sort of passport authority effectively to issue passports to every single agent.

And that can't be controlled by any one company.

It has to be somewhat supranational at some level and also native to the internet.

And that's where ERC 8004 could fit in.

I mean, that's a pretty big vision.

It'll take a long time to get there.

And you wonder about adoption, but it's a pretty big deal.

I guess, Austin, now back to kind of your story.

And so back to Austin's bot and what it's doing now.