Austin Kleon

Even that, you can't necessarily help.

You just have to do it the best you can.

And so for me, it was like, once I hold that book and I'm like, yeah, this is the best I could do right now at this moment in time, that's the victory.

I always tell people, so I'm a weird guy in that.

I love when people, I have a sign when you get here, it says walk-ins welcome.

I had my friend, you know, I was going to say what you said, like if you want to differentiate yourself in your field, by the way, the easiest thing to do is to read a book outside of it.

Right.

Like that's one of the easiest ways to just, you just go a little bit further out than other people are swimming and you find the new water.

Yeah.

No, I'm with you.

I was going to say when you come to the studio, there's a sign that says walk-ins welcome.

And it's because every time I go to the barbershop, I see the sign that says walk-ins welcome.

I think I'd really like to have that.

on my studio, but I could never find the right sign.

And then a guy I know, Dean Peterson, who's a film guy, but then he lives in LA.

He opened this non-alcoholic beer and wine store.

And one of the things he did as part of that is he took a sign painting class.

I don't think he'd ever painted or done art stuff before.

They took this sign painting class and started an Instagram account where he learned to paint signs, like the old-fashioned way.

If you saw an old grocery store where it says 99 cents, it's in script or whatever.