Austin Mitchell

Are you nervous for tomorrow?

Are you nervous for tomorrow?

And I didn't even realize that might be a... I've definitely heard from parents, Jamie, who are like, you know, feel like their kids are collateral damage in your war path to take down gender-affirming care and... Missouri and America, frankly.

And I didn't even realize that might be a... I've definitely heard from parents, Jamie, who are like, you know, feel like their kids are collateral damage in your war path to take down gender-affirming care and... Missouri and America, frankly.

But also, like, what if their kids are happy and doing well?

But also, like, what if their kids are happy and doing well?

I guess for Austin, who has not met you before, like you five years ago would be shocked, right, to hear what you're saying now. You clearly thought you were doing the right thing.

I guess for Austin, who has not met you before, like you five years ago would be shocked, right, to hear what you're saying now. You clearly thought you were doing the right thing.

But, Jamie, like, the clinicians who have been raising alarms about the rising numbers, the lack of assessment, all of that, still believe that there are kids who benefit from these treatments, and they believe that because they've seen it with their own eyes. And... Talking about Laura Edwards-Leeper, for example. Dr. Anderson.

But, Jamie, like, the clinicians who have been raising alarms about the rising numbers, the lack of assessment, all of that, still believe that there are kids who benefit from these treatments, and they believe that because they've seen it with their own eyes. And... Talking about Laura Edwards-Leeper, for example. Dr. Anderson.

Laura Edwards-Leeper does not say that she supports bans on gender-affirming care. Correct. And so that's kind of where you diverge.

Laura Edwards-Leeper does not say that she supports bans on gender-affirming care. Correct. And so that's kind of where you diverge.

And where she – it's not fair to focus on her. There was that whole letter that – you know, all the medical providers in the U.S. who said we disagree about a lot of things. Yes.

And where she – it's not fair to focus on her. There was that whole letter that – you know, all the medical providers in the U.S. who said we disagree about a lot of things. Yes.

Here's what we agree on. We agree on these bans are bad because it's legislative interference in medical care. And I just I'm bringing it up because like we're on the

Here's what we agree on. We agree on these bans are bad because it's legislative interference in medical care. And I just I'm bringing it up because like we're on the

And you're like diving like straight into it. I mean, you're already in it, but you're, this feels different.

And you're like diving like straight into it. I mean, you're already in it, but you're, this feels different.

A lot of people don't agree, right? And they, like, vehemently disagree. Like, what does it mean then to be harmed if you don't... You know, a thing that the parents say a lot is, so where are all the people who are upset? And... I just, I do wonder that.

A lot of people don't agree, right? And they, like, vehemently disagree. Like, what does it mean then to be harmed if you don't... You know, a thing that the parents say a lot is, so where are all the people who are upset? And... I just, I do wonder that.