Austin Rogers

Sorry, a lot of the Iranian folks in the U.S.

have family back in Iran.

I'm telling you there's appetite for a different regime, a different...

Yeah, but again, these things aren't alike.

We have a foundation of government based on separation of powers, based on French philosophy, based on enlightenment.

They have a structure of government that is based on radical Islamic terrorist ideology.

Yeah, but what I'm saying is... Real quick.

The framework of government they had there is much more fragile than the framework that we have here.

If, God forbid, something happened to a president here, we have the framework in place to replace... So do they.

No, I don't think they have the same structure.

And I think that we are going to find out here in the near future their structure is much weaker and more fragile than ours.

No, a moral justification would be that they have Americans' blood on their hands.

Agreed.

A moral justification would be they are racing to get nuclear arms.

Totally agree.

A moral justification would be they adhere to a form of Islam that is eschatological, apocalyptic, wants to kill the West, wants to kill the United States of America.

Totally agree.

That is a vision of moral righteousness, and they're acting on that moral righteousness.

Why would we make the assumption that it failed?

Yeah, I mean, I think puffery happens in any sort of negotiation.