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Ave Gatton

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Code Story: Insights from Startup Tech Leaders
The Gene Simmons of Data Protection - AI Inference-time Guardrails

Fine and good for a prototype to see what level of utility you can get out of the agent infrastructure.

Code Story: Insights from Startup Tech Leaders
The Gene Simmons of Data Protection - AI Inference-time Guardrails

Do that quickly, do that fast, rapid prototype, develop quickly.

Code Story: Insights from Startup Tech Leaders
The Gene Simmons of Data Protection - AI Inference-time Guardrails

Then the hard problem becomes when you put that into production, you need to find a way to implement these secure patterns as much as possible.

Code Story: Insights from Startup Tech Leaders
The Gene Simmons of Data Protection - AI Inference-time Guardrails

So instead of just going and talking to the database, now you're asking like yes, no questions, and you have a secure model that, or you have a untrusted model that goes and accesses the database and can only return yes, no answers, etc.,

Code Story: Insights from Startup Tech Leaders
The Gene Simmons of Data Protection - AI Inference-time Guardrails

So you're separating concerns there, and then you're wrapping things in guardrails to make sure, oh, this is topically relevant.

Code Story: Insights from Startup Tech Leaders
The Gene Simmons of Data Protection - AI Inference-time Guardrails

Like, I'm not being asked to, I don't know, generate limericks or do some weird stuff that has nothing to do with, say, the finance task that I know I'm supposed to be working on.

Code Story: Insights from Startup Tech Leaders
The Gene Simmons of Data Protection - AI Inference-time Guardrails

That'll mitigate some of these sort of more naive attacks.

Code Story: Insights from Startup Tech Leaders
The Gene Simmons of Data Protection - AI Inference-time Guardrails

All of that is what organizations should be doing, what businesses should be doing as they move into production.

Code Story: Insights from Startup Tech Leaders
The Gene Simmons of Data Protection - AI Inference-time Guardrails

And then you iterate.

Code Story: Insights from Startup Tech Leaders
The Gene Simmons of Data Protection - AI Inference-time Guardrails

You go from there.

Code Story: Insights from Startup Tech Leaders
The Gene Simmons of Data Protection - AI Inference-time Guardrails

You try and improve the performance to gain again what you had in your POC.

Code Story: Insights from Startup Tech Leaders
The Gene Simmons of Data Protection - AI Inference-time Guardrails

But that's what I would recommend.

Code Story: Insights from Startup Tech Leaders
The Gene Simmons of Data Protection - AI Inference-time Guardrails

I think that having an eye, if you can,

Code Story: Insights from Startup Tech Leaders
The Gene Simmons of Data Protection - AI Inference-time Guardrails

move the security into the design process as quickly as possible after the POC so that you have a better sense of how you can create a secure agent and what the performance of that secure agent will be.

Code Story: Insights from Startup Tech Leaders
The Gene Simmons of Data Protection - AI Inference-time Guardrails

I think often you'll find that adding all these layers of security doesn't actually impact performance too much.

Code Story: Insights from Startup Tech Leaders
The Gene Simmons of Data Protection - AI Inference-time Guardrails

Typically, what people are looking for with agents now is raw ability as opposed to latency.

Code Story: Insights from Startup Tech Leaders
The Gene Simmons of Data Protection - AI Inference-time Guardrails

I rarely come across a scenario where people are like, oh, this is taking too long.

Code Story: Insights from Startup Tech Leaders
The Gene Simmons of Data Protection - AI Inference-time Guardrails

Almost everyone building with agents wants the results to be good more than they want.

Code Story: Insights from Startup Tech Leaders
The Gene Simmons of Data Protection - AI Inference-time Guardrails

They want a slow, good result versus a fast, bad result.

Code Story: Insights from Startup Tech Leaders
The Gene Simmons of Data Protection - AI Inference-time Guardrails

A fast, bad result, you might as well not have the agent at all.