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Avi Wigderson

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
109 total appearances

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The Peterman Pod
Turing Award Winner: P vs NP, Zero-Knowledge Proofs, Quantum Computation | Avi Wigderson

This is Avi Wigderson, Turing Award and Abel Prize winner, and I interviewed him all about his field.

The Peterman Pod
Turing Award Winner: P vs NP, Zero-Knowledge Proofs, Quantum Computation | Avi Wigderson

In one of your lectures, you mentioned that P equals NP is philosophically about the fundamental limits of human knowledge.

The Peterman Pod
Turing Award Winner: P vs NP, Zero-Knowledge Proofs, Quantum Computation | Avi Wigderson

What is P equals NP, and how does it relate to human knowledge?

The Peterman Pod
Turing Award Winner: P vs NP, Zero-Knowledge Proofs, Quantum Computation | Avi Wigderson

So I know this is one of those Millennium Prize problems.

The Peterman Pod
Turing Award Winner: P vs NP, Zero-Knowledge Proofs, Quantum Computation | Avi Wigderson

There's a million dollar prize if you can provide a proof for this.

The Peterman Pod
Turing Award Winner: P vs NP, Zero-Knowledge Proofs, Quantum Computation | Avi Wigderson

I can imagine you could prove that they're equivalent.

The Peterman Pod
Turing Award Winner: P vs NP, Zero-Knowledge Proofs, Quantum Computation | Avi Wigderson

You could also prove that they're not.

The Peterman Pod
Turing Award Winner: P vs NP, Zero-Knowledge Proofs, Quantum Computation | Avi Wigderson

If you had to guess when and if a proof comes, which direction would your intuition say it goes and why?

The Peterman Pod
Turing Award Winner: P vs NP, Zero-Knowledge Proofs, Quantum Computation | Avi Wigderson

That would change the world.

The Peterman Pod
Turing Award Winner: P vs NP, Zero-Knowledge Proofs, Quantum Computation | Avi Wigderson

In software engineering, we use algorithms all the time and they often have these very satisfying properties where the solution, you know, we use space or some algorithm that can take something where the brute force is something much larger to down to something that's polynomial time or something very reasonable.

The Peterman Pod
Turing Award Winner: P vs NP, Zero-Knowledge Proofs, Quantum Computation | Avi Wigderson

But in all these NP problems, it's pretty unsatisfying that the best we could do is brute force.

The Peterman Pod
Turing Award Winner: P vs NP, Zero-Knowledge Proofs, Quantum Computation | Avi Wigderson

Am I understanding that correctly?

The Peterman Pod
Turing Award Winner: P vs NP, Zero-Knowledge Proofs, Quantum Computation | Avi Wigderson

You mentioned the protein folding.

The Peterman Pod
Turing Award Winner: P vs NP, Zero-Knowledge Proofs, Quantum Computation | Avi Wigderson

And I mean, yeah, that's an interesting one because it's an NP problem, but it was solved to an acceptable extent.

The Peterman Pod
Turing Award Winner: P vs NP, Zero-Knowledge Proofs, Quantum Computation | Avi Wigderson

And when I was reading about it, it wasn't solved for 100% of cases.

The Peterman Pod
Turing Award Winner: P vs NP, Zero-Knowledge Proofs, Quantum Computation | Avi Wigderson

It provides the solution and a confidence score, but it doesn't give you the answer 100% accurate, fully computed.

The Peterman Pod
Turing Award Winner: P vs NP, Zero-Knowledge Proofs, Quantum Computation | Avi Wigderson

And so when you think about these NP problems, what if you relaxed the criteria of being correct?

The Peterman Pod
Turing Award Winner: P vs NP, Zero-Knowledge Proofs, Quantum Computation | Avi Wigderson

Could the asymptotic complexity be less than the exponential that we're talking about?

The Peterman Pod
Turing Award Winner: P vs NP, Zero-Knowledge Proofs, Quantum Computation | Avi Wigderson

So even if you solve just the slightest epsilon for any trivially small epsilon, it's just as hard as doing the full.

The Peterman Pod
Turing Award Winner: P vs NP, Zero-Knowledge Proofs, Quantum Computation | Avi Wigderson

It's just as hard as finding the optimum solution.

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