Aviva DeKornfeld

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I just started calling her all the time.

And I think because I just wanted to keep talking to her because I was so afraid she was going to die.

I know.

It's funny to think back on because it is it was so purely intentioned.

But it's also so the motives of it are so transparent that it must have just been like a reminder to my grandmother every day.

Like this kid thinks you're going to die because you might.

You know what I mean?

She's like, OK, relax.

No, she was like, I was trying to like one day of fucking peace.

And I'm like, hi, grandma.

Can I talk to you again before you die?

I kind of have this memory of the calls kind of running out of steam a little bit because I was calling every single day and I was like eight or nine.

So it's like, what do you have to talk about, you know?

And so I think I had introduced her to Harry Potter just as I had started reading it.

And...

I think we were then, like, we would read them at the same time, and we would read a chapter, and I'd talk on the phone the next day to read.

We would discuss the chapter.

It was sort of like book club with my grandma.