Ayesha Roscoe

And so when when were those occasions?

When we come back, we'll hear from another group that's arming up, trans people.

We're back with the Sunday story.

I've been talking with my NPR colleague, Frank Langford, about a growing trend.

More and more liberals and people of color are buying guns and getting training because the political environment scares them.

Frank, earlier we heard from Charles and his daughter, who they're both black.

But you also mentioned that more LGBTQ people have been buying guns.

Like, what are they telling you?

I mean, where is Dana planning to move?

So did anything ever come of that?

So fear of the administration instituting a gun ban actually united liberal trans people and conservative Second Amendment groups.

You mentioned that you did these interviews over, you know, many months.

President Trump has made great

big, bold changes since he took office last January.

Have the attitudes of any of the people that you've interviewed changed since you first talked to them?

Did Dana's change in attitude surprise you?

So does this mean Dana is giving up their guns?

So we've heard from the liberal gun club and Dana learned to shoot with the pink pistols.

Frank, why do you think people on the left and minorities seek out these kind of training groups?

So Padavani, what he's describing is that some trainers create what it sounds like a very toxic environment.