Ayman Mohyeldin

All of a sudden, and look, he's always had his followers.

The monarchists always supported him and they've always kind of thought of him as a legitimate figure.

uh replacement to the regime i don't think a lot of people in the iranian diaspora even in the iranian opposition necessarily took him seriously but in the last couple of weeks and certainly in the last um couple of months there has been this kind of concerted push to elevate him

by Western leaders.

And so how was he received at the Munich Security Conference?

What did he say?

Because I think there's been criticism that he's being put in these platforms.

He's not being really tested with the questions that he's being asked.

He's not giving a very clear vision about what he wants to do.

Because the way that I kind of look at a run, and I can talk about this in a second, is it's kind of about the three Ds, right?

Like the day of a potential collapse of a regime, the day after, and then the decade after.

What happens in those three periods of time, the day that the regime is gone, the day after the regime is gone, and then the decade after?

And I have my reservations about how it will look like, but what was your take from listening to Shah Riza speak at... Yeah.

Yeah, and listen, I think that's exactly what this issue is.

And we can be mature and hold two separate ideas.

The people of Iran want this regime gone, and the people of Iran deserve to have their aspirations heard and fulfilled, and they should determine their own future.

They are entitled to self-determination, free from autocracy, theocracy, like any other grouping of people in the world.

Nobody that has spoken about this issue has offered a clear and concise plan as to what the day after the collapse of a regime looks like.

And I covered the Iraq war.

I remember a lot of Iraqi opposition figures who wanted American military intervention to destroy Saddam Hussein and his regime and to get rid of the Ba'athist regime in Iraq.