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Azeem Azhar

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
My OpenAI thought experiment: $500B to $1.5T?

We don't really know exactly what this is going to mean to companies and their willingness to continue to invest in these types of AI projects.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
My OpenAI thought experiment: $500B to $1.5T?

But the evidence is slowly but surely building up.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
My OpenAI thought experiment: $500B to $1.5T?

I think there's another point with open AI or with any of these AI companies, and that is the disruption premium.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
My OpenAI thought experiment: $500B to $1.5T?

When you're a venture investor and you're investing in an early stage company, you're not really thinking about whether it will beat the NASDAQ.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
My OpenAI thought experiment: $500B to $1.5T?

You're thinking about convexity.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
My OpenAI thought experiment: $500B to $1.5T?

You're thinking about, does this give me

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
My OpenAI thought experiment: $500B to $1.5T?

a chance for a really, really exceptional outcome, a Google-style outcome, a Figma-style outcome, a Spotify-style outcome, or indeed an OpenAI-style outcome if you're one of the earlier investors.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
My OpenAI thought experiment: $500B to $1.5T?

That bet is something that, if you look at technology companies at this early stage, is in a way the one that you might be thinking.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
My OpenAI thought experiment: $500B to $1.5T?

It's really interesting historically when you look at stock market returns, and I recommend people read a paper by Besson Binder, Arizona University finance prof, where he looks at stock market returns over 100 years and sort of identifies that they're very much clustered around a few dozen companies.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
My OpenAI thought experiment: $500B to $1.5T?

And when I looked a bit deeper, many of those few dozen companies were connected to the infrastructure technologies of the time, like the car or electricity or computing.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
My OpenAI thought experiment: $500B to $1.5T?

So there is this sense that when you are in a technology transition, that value will accrue disproportionately.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
My OpenAI thought experiment: $500B to $1.5T?

And I think we're to certain sectors, and we're starting to see that in the fact that the Magnificent Seven is driving the bulk of America's stock market returns.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
My OpenAI thought experiment: $500B to $1.5T?

So perhaps there is this disruption premium, this sort of wager that you're not really after 17% or 20%.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
My OpenAI thought experiment: $500B to $1.5T?

You're after the chance of something that's much, much higher.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
My OpenAI thought experiment: $500B to $1.5T?

I'm not even sure that any of this depends on AGI, artificial general intelligence.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
My OpenAI thought experiment: $500B to $1.5T?

Long-term listeners and readers will know that I have lots of problems with the way that term is conceptualized and thrown about.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
My OpenAI thought experiment: $500B to $1.5T?

I don't think it's a

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
My OpenAI thought experiment: $500B to $1.5T?

particularly useful definition or a helpful one, but lets us play with it for the time being, whatever AGI means to you.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
My OpenAI thought experiment: $500B to $1.5T?

I don't think that any of this is dependent on super capable AI systems that can do thousands of hours of work without anyone supervising them, even though that's what the

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
My OpenAI thought experiment: $500B to $1.5T?

evaluation seem to suggest they'll be able to do within 5, 10, 15, 20 years.