Azeem Azhar

Let's turn this into that specific piece of advice.

So there'll be lots of people listening out of the tens and hundreds of thousands who will have kids who are in that final year of college in their undergrad.

There's a bit of pressure, but there is time.

There's time a few months before you really formally hit the hiring market.

If there is one thing

that junior should do, that mom and dad should encourage junior to do so that when they get out there in the fall of 2026 to look for a job, they're best placed?

What is that one thing?

You know, economists often talk about payoffs.

Ben, we've got a payoff out of this conversation with your last two pieces of advice.

Ben Zweig, thank you so much for the time today.

Thank you.

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All of this matters, generative AI, but in a different way.

The real story is a broader shift in the economy towards computation.

So let me take you through this shift and how it connects to what we're seeing in the news and how Gen AI fits in that picture.

We saw the results from many of the tech companies, many of the big tech firms, and they showed really staggering growth, particularly in their cloud businesses.

Companies like Amazon and Google and Microsoft are known as hyperscalers because outside of the businesses we most think of them running, they also run computing capability for enterprises all over the world.

And those cloud businesses are growing really rapidly.