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Azeem Azhar

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6838 total appearances

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Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

They got to 17 million in revenue after about nine months and they're growing faster than ever before because customers want to pay for this.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

And we shouldn't forget that by the end of this year, ChatGPT, that weird experiment that spilled into our lives three years ago,

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

we'll be making about $10 billion annualized at the end of this year.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

And again, that's real money.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

And that's money that's been made faster than Facebook got to that milestone or TikTok got to that milestone.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

So of course, you get these moments of exuberance.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

But they're also examples where real customers are spending real money on products that they really like.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

Well, I've looked historically at 18 bubble instances back to the canals in the 1790s and where I could get the data.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

What I found was that the threshold where it gets really sticky is around 2% of GDP and really problematic at 3%, which is where the railroads got to in the 1870s.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

And the reason seems to be, and it's particularly true in a big and complex economy like America's, that it's a big and complex economy and it can absorb that sort of level.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

But I'd also add that

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

It's actually quite a good thing at this moment where without the build-out of these data centres, the American economy might be heading towards recession.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

And the build-out involves things that America has stated and authors like you and your colleague have stated need to happen, which is getting back to building.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

When you build a data centre, you pour concrete.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

I was speaking to the leadership team of a 140-year-old American engineering firm that

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

built many of the famous old bridges that you've probably driven across.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

They're busy building data centers right now, and it's electricians and project managers and HVAC engineers who are there.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

And that feels to me like it's probably quite a good thing to be happening right now.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

So I would say that that's...

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

feels at the economic level pretty interesting.