Azeem Azhar

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Azeem Azhar's Exponential View · Why China builds while America debates, with Dan Wang · 1 Oct 2025 podcast

But still, you know, within various executive orders and other things that are being done in the president's own style appear to be rather pro-engineering.

You know, whether it is persuading semiconductor manufacturers to build factories, whether it is constructing space for businesses to get what they need done, whether it is the promise of fast-tracking the build-out of energy infrastructure, all of these things look like they are

you know, pro-engineering, pro-building policies, different in cost and color to the Biden era policies, but are they pro-engineering policies or are they just dressed up like that?

That's something that we can test, which is great.

But you raised Elon Musk, and of course, he is one of the preeminent engineers anywhere in the world.

One of his emphases, I think, is unique characteristics amongst American engineers is that he does span the bits in terms of x.com and through to the atoms in terms of his robots, his robots on wheels, the cars, and what he's building with Optimus.

But it does feel to me, and I think you've interpreted this a few times, that it's where code meets atoms.

It's Chinese entrepreneurs who are largely leading.

I mean, within autonomous vehicles, we talk a lot about Waymo and its successes, but of course, Apollo...

which was incubated in Wuhan is doing incredibly well with much, much lower cost vehicles.

We know what's happening with the surge of electric vehicles coming out of China, right across not just Europe, but across Africa, you know, the BYDs and the others.

And these are great vehicles.

You haven't been in them.

I was in a few luxury EVs when I was in China and I was blown away.

And one of them had a marble floor, which I've never seen in a car before.

And then, of course, we're seeing this naturally with drones, right?

We know that the drones are produced essentially in China.

Is that code meets atoms, right?

As a layperson who knows less about these countries than you do, I would say, well, this is something that speaks very well to the engineering culture.

And it's no surprise, therefore, that Chinese entrepreneurs are leading this.

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