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Azeem Azhar

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Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

And, well, that does feel like it's heading towards that moment of bubbledom, if that's the right word.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

But the other side of that is...

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

even these startups are growing like absolute topsy.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

We've just heard that Cursor, which makes a tool to automate coding, has reached a few hundred million dollars of revenue and this company is only three years old.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

invested in an email tool that uses AI to help you answer your emails.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

And I remember being really cross with the founders when I looked at their pitch, where they said, we'll get to $10 million in revenues in the first year.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

And I was saying, that's just ridiculous.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

That's not going to happen.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

And this is the thing that I don't like about your pitch.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

They got to 17 million in revenue after about nine months and they're growing faster than ever before because customers want to pay for this.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

And we shouldn't forget that by the end of this year, ChatGPT, that weird experiment that spilled into our lives three years ago,

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

we'll be making about $10 billion annualized at the end of this year.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

And again, that's real money.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

And that's money that's been made faster than Facebook got to that milestone or TikTok got to that milestone.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

So of course, you get these moments of exuberance.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

But they're also examples where real customers are spending real money on products that they really like.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

Well, I've looked historically at 18 bubble instances back to the canals in the 1790s and where I could get the data.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

What I found was that the threshold where it gets really sticky is around 2% of GDP and really problematic at 3%, which is where the railroads got to in the 1870s.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

And the reason seems to be, and it's particularly true in a big and complex economy like America's, that it's a big and complex economy and it can absorb that sort of level.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

But I'd also add that