Azeen Gureshi

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The New York Times obtained hundreds of documents from this whistleblower, which corroborated some of her allegations, including... The day after that, advocacy groups criticized the story.

The New York Times obtained hundreds of documents from this whistleblower, which corroborated some of her allegations, including... The day after that, advocacy groups criticized the story.

I remember that, not the specific event. I'm just thinking about getting a standing ovation because I don't remember that at all.

I remember that, not the specific event. I'm just thinking about getting a standing ovation because I don't remember that at all.

year-long assessment or six-month assessment, I think that we started recognizing in some cases that's doing more harm than good, especially when you're talking about a puberty timeline.

year-long assessment or six-month assessment, I think that we started recognizing in some cases that's doing more harm than good, especially when you're talking about a puberty timeline.

What happens if you require someone to be in therapy for a year, but they have no interest in that? That doesn't make sense.

What happens if you require someone to be in therapy for a year, but they have no interest in that? That doesn't make sense.

So I do not think of myself as a single individual. I want to go back in history and talk about really this work arising from HIV care. And so we had an HIV youth program before we started doing gender care. And that included a population of older adolescents and young adult trans women, many trans young women of color.

So I do not think of myself as a single individual. I want to go back in history and talk about really this work arising from HIV care. And so we had an HIV youth program before we started doing gender care. And that included a population of older adolescents and young adult trans women, many trans young women of color.

And so when these young people were coming in for HIV-related services, either prevention, testing, or treatment, they were beginning to ask, hey, can you do our hormone-related care here? And so it's not widely publicized, but we began within the division to do that care in the early 90s. Okay.

And so when these young people were coming in for HIV-related services, either prevention, testing, or treatment, they were beginning to ask, hey, can you do our hormone-related care here? And so it's not widely publicized, but we began within the division to do that care in the early 90s. Okay.

Right after it was published, I don't remember the exact details surrounding that because it's been a long time. But it made sense and it was right off the bat brilliant. I mean, it made complete sense. We knew that people going through their endogenous puberty left them with changes that they would never be able to walk back.

Right after it was published, I don't remember the exact details surrounding that because it's been a long time. But it made sense and it was right off the bat brilliant. I mean, it made complete sense. We knew that people going through their endogenous puberty left them with changes that they would never be able to walk back.

And that was especially considering the population, right, that we're working with. We knew that historically it's identifiable trans women of color that are the targets and the victims of violence and sometimes homicide. And so if we could create a situation whereby they were not identifiable, that's lifesaving. It was like a piece that clicked into place.

And that was especially considering the population, right, that we're working with. We knew that historically it's identifiable trans women of color that are the targets and the victims of violence and sometimes homicide. And so if we could create a situation whereby they were not identifiable, that's lifesaving. It was like a piece that clicked into place.

And in fact, I remember saying, this is so obvious. It's kind of astonishing that somebody didn't talk about this or think of this earlier.

And in fact, I remember saying, this is so obvious. It's kind of astonishing that somebody didn't talk about this or think of this earlier.