Aziz Abu Sarra

It's a day that we still commemorate as the saddest day of our history.

And only a few thousands were left there after 1948.

Everyone was pushed into the boats and ended up through the sea going to Gaza.

So many of the people who are suffering in Gaza today are originally refugees from Jaffa.

So yeah, it's...

There are no words that can describe it, but important to also say, like my family didn't end up being refugees in 1948, but they became refugees in 1967.

And that's another one of those catastrophes.

Half of my family live in Jordan.

My uncle lives in Jordan.

I have cousins I barely knew growing up because in Jordan, my dad, half of his cousin's family ended up in Jordan, were not allowed to come back home to Jerusalem because

after the war in 1967.

So it's one after another.

We've gone through this already.

So I'll just start with saying genocide.

I talk to everybody.

Whether you think it's a genocide, you don't think it's a genocide, you think it's war crimes, you think it's terrible, you think... I'll talk to everyone.

And what I want is, even if you don't think it's a genocide, if you just think it's war crimes, if you just think it's...

It's bad actions, atrocities, mistakes, whatever you want to call it, that you want it to stop.

That, to me, is what matters.

And that you don't force me to say whatever language you want me to say.