Barak Swarttz

I think it depends who you're asking.

If you're asking...

The student at Columbia who's been at the encampment for 19, 20, 21 months, probably not.

And if you're asking any of the other people who are in that frequency of anger, probably not.

If you are somebody who has like a passion for the state of Israel,

the defense of the state of Israel and which I, by the way, I have both.

Um, but I also don't like government in general.

I really don't like politics.

You can tell by this point in the conversation, having brought politics up.

Yeah.

I just don't like it.

Um, then you're going to be somebody who likes the, likes the, the, the very heavy, like defense approach to everything that's going on.

Um,

I don't really have a dense amount of opinions on when Trump comes on the screen, when Bibi comes on the screen, when any of the politicians come on the screen, unless it's rightfully calling out

the blunt violence, like, like directing the violence towards somebody and meaning like asking for more violence, I think is one thing where even if you go on X, like, I think X is a really good place until things become violent, you know?

And when it turns violent, that's, so what I'm saying is I think we should be listening to leadership the second it ever does become violent.

something that you're perceiving as like, oh, this individual is trying to instigate more violence.

And I'll go back to the first thing I said, that group that already thinks he's just like Hitler, every time that you see his face on a screen, your energetic field is going to go to

Hitler or it's going to go to violence or it's going to go to evil or it's going to go to corrupt and all those things.

If you're on the opposite spectrum and you're living your life from a different perspective where you see what he's doing is actually really important for a lot of the communities on the border, then you would say, no, we need more of that.