Barbara Bradley Hagerty
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The terms of the peace must send a message that aggression does not pay. Is the U.S. breaking with its friends?
The terms of the peace must send a message that aggression does not pay. Is the U.S. breaking with its friends?
The terms of the peace must send a message that aggression does not pay. Is the U.S. breaking with its friends?
And the terms of the peace must send a message that aggression does not pay. This is why there can be no equivalence between Russia and Ukraine in how this council refers to this war.
And the terms of the peace must send a message that aggression does not pay. This is why there can be no equivalence between Russia and Ukraine in how this council refers to this war.
And the terms of the peace must send a message that aggression does not pay. This is why there can be no equivalence between Russia and Ukraine in how this council refers to this war.
That's right, Aisha. And on top of this, in the 1990s, Ben suffered a lot of personal losses. I mean, think about it. He lost his freedom. He lost his future. He lost his family. When Ben was arrested, his wife was seven months pregnant. So he lost the chance to raise his son. But for him, the worst thing was the toll that his life sentence took on his wife, Deborah.
That's right, Aisha. And on top of this, in the 1990s, Ben suffered a lot of personal losses. I mean, think about it. He lost his freedom. He lost his future. He lost his family. When Ben was arrested, his wife was seven months pregnant. So he lost the chance to raise his son. But for him, the worst thing was the toll that his life sentence took on his wife, Deborah.
That's right, Aisha. And on top of this, in the 1990s, Ben suffered a lot of personal losses. I mean, think about it. He lost his freedom. He lost his future. He lost his family. When Ben was arrested, his wife was seven months pregnant. So he lost the chance to raise his son. But for him, the worst thing was the toll that his life sentence took on his wife, Deborah.
I talked to her, and she told me it was simply agonizing.
I talked to her, and she told me it was simply agonizing.
I talked to her, and she told me it was simply agonizing.
So in 1993, he asked Deborah to divorce him so that she could move on with her life. And after a couple of years of resisting, she did. Ben said she finally agreed.
So in 1993, he asked Deborah to divorce him so that she could move on with her life. And after a couple of years of resisting, she did. Ben said she finally agreed.
So in 1993, he asked Deborah to divorce him so that she could move on with her life. And after a couple of years of resisting, she did. Ben said she finally agreed.
Yeah, absolutely. But, you know, despite the divorce, Deborah remained his most loyal and faithful friend. And, you know, they stayed in touch.
Yeah, absolutely. But, you know, despite the divorce, Deborah remained his most loyal and faithful friend. And, you know, they stayed in touch.
Yeah, absolutely. But, you know, despite the divorce, Deborah remained his most loyal and faithful friend. And, you know, they stayed in touch.
Well, not really. I mean, he had friends, but one by one, they were paroled or exonerated. And he had his faith, but there wasn't actually very much good happening in his life. That is, not until May 20, 2001, when he gets a visitor, Jim McCluskey at Centurion Ministries.
Well, not really. I mean, he had friends, but one by one, they were paroled or exonerated. And he had his faith, but there wasn't actually very much good happening in his life. That is, not until May 20, 2001, when he gets a visitor, Jim McCluskey at Centurion Ministries.