Barbara McCarthy

Yes.

So tell me about that one.

So I flew to Edinburgh and then I got this electric bus up to, they're called Embiid.

Embery, I think.

The electric bus, yeah.

Then I went to Fort William, stayed there for a night.

Not everyone's cup of tea.

The next night I stayed somewhere else, though.

The youth hostel was just kind of closer.

If you go to the mountains, you kind of stay with other people in a room.

But yeah, one night is fine in a youth hostel, I think.

In the winter.

No.

It's called mountaineering.

There's a difference.

So the difference between hiking and mountaineering is hiking is you kind of, you know, you have your hiking boots and poles and stuff and it's kind of a destination.

You're just walking on trails a lot of the time, whereas mountaineering is kind of summiting and you have ice axes and crampons and you need to have the right gear.

So that's what you were doing at Ben Nevis, is it?

That's what I was doing.

But I had a guide there because when you get to the top, it was like complete whiteout.