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Barbara McQuade

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Fresh Air
Implications Of The DOJ Targeting The President’s Critics

One of the most famous cases of selective prosecution involved charges against operators of laundry services in San Francisco in wooden shops.

Fresh Air
Implications Of The DOJ Targeting The President’s Critics

So after the Great Fire in San Francisco, there was a prohibition on running laundry services in wooden buildings because of the danger of fire.

Fresh Air
Implications Of The DOJ Targeting The President’s Critics

But it turned out that the prosecutions were only brought against Chinese owners of laundry services in wooden buildings and not white operators.

Fresh Air
Implications Of The DOJ Targeting The President’s Critics

And so they successfully brought a claim of selective prosecution.

Fresh Air
Implications Of The DOJ Targeting The President’s Critics

You're only going after one race of people in prosecuting this case.

Fresh Air
Implications Of The DOJ Targeting The President’s Critics

It's difficult to prove this claim, however, because it requires a couple of things.

Fresh Air
Implications Of The DOJ Targeting The President’s Critics

One is showing that others similarly situated were not charged with crimes.

Fresh Air
Implications Of The DOJ Targeting The President’s Critics

In the case of the laundry services, it was easy to do that because they could just line up and say, look, here are all the Chinese owners.

Fresh Air
Implications Of The DOJ Targeting The President’s Critics

Here are all the non-Chinese owners.

Fresh Air
Implications Of The DOJ Targeting The President’s Critics

These were charged.

Fresh Air
Implications Of The DOJ Targeting The President’s Critics

These weren't charged.

Fresh Air
Implications Of The DOJ Targeting The President’s Critics

In a case like Jim Comey's, it's hard to prove the negative that somebody else did make a false statement before Congress but wasn't charged.

Fresh Air
Implications Of The DOJ Targeting The President’s Critics

But what's easy to prove in this case is the second element.

Fresh Air
Implications Of The DOJ Targeting The President’s Critics

That is an intent to discriminate on some improper purpose.

Fresh Air
Implications Of The DOJ Targeting The President’s Critics

And in addition to race or religion, a political motive is an arbitrary and prohibited basis.

Fresh Air
Implications Of The DOJ Targeting The President’s Critics

And so here is where Trump's messages could be very valuable to the defense team because you'd have to show an intent to treat someone differently on the basis of politics.

Fresh Air
Implications Of The DOJ Targeting The President’s Critics

So all these things about Comey's a scumball or a slimeball or whatever the words that Trump has used, I think those could be strong evidence for that other element of intent.

Fresh Air
Implications Of The DOJ Targeting The President’s Critics

Well, there are a couple of things.

Fresh Air
Implications Of The DOJ Targeting The President’s Critics

One is we teach them the norms, right?

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Implications Of The DOJ Targeting The President’s Critics

We teach them the rules of ethics.