Barry Andrews

But furthermore.

From a political perspective, even when Friedrich Merz decided that they would no longer supply some arms to the Israeli military because they're continuing arming the Israeli military, there was a huge backlash against his own party, the CDU in Germany.

So it's political reasons.

And then another German diplomat told me once that...

I mean, what's the point in us trying to do anything to Israel now?

The Trump administration will target us even more.

So they fear the backlash of the United States, which I think is a fair enough point, because even the Irish government is clearly worried that there will be some sort of consequences for Ireland implementing the Occupied Territories Bill.

And it has happened in Belgium as well.

I mean, they've come under pressure from the Americans.

The US ambassador to Belgium is consistently attacking the Belgian foreign affairs minister, Maxime Poivot, calling him anti-Semitic.

So there is interference from the United States against countries who've employed this.

But they've done it anyway.

And there hasn't been any, let's say, consequences in terms of

let's say the businesses taking their business elsewhere.

It's just been that there has been some political backlash.

But yeah, that's what the Germans consistently say.

But at the same time, the argument is always put back to them saying, well, you know, the whole policy of Germany was never again when it comes to genocide.

You are a signature to the Genocide Convention.

You're a signature to the International Criminal Court.

Yet Friedrich Merz went to Tel Aviv to meet Benjamin Netanyahu because he couldn't bring Netanyahu to Berlin because obviously he'd have to arrest him, which is circumventing international law.