Barry Baines

But the thing is, when you think about a, uh,

a spectrum of a disease like diabetes.

Okay.

Usually you can measure that by your A1C and, you know, your heart disease.

So it's more, it is more linear in a way that can be measured.

So it's more like, I think of it as up and down, whereas with the spectrum for autism is very horizontal.

You know, it's like the pool, you know, or you throw the rock in the pool and the ripples are

you know, go out and it has different levels of findings of behaviors.

And then the last piece is that oftentimes, and this, you know, Ellie is where I, you know, thank you, thank you for all that you do.

But the idea of setting up all of these supportive services that really can help people with autism to manage behaviors better so that they are able to remain

and become very functional people in society.

One of the people I always think of is Temple Grandin, who's very well known.

And she actually, I took a course on how to teach diverse learners at the U in mathematics.

I like to help kids with math.

And one of her papers that we studied was about how

you know, a good approach to people who are on the autism spectrum to find a way that, that helps to, to teach them more effectively.

And she also is the person that has done a lot of things with animal behavior.

If anybody is, you know, read it, read about that.

But anyway, that, those are the, you know, some of the points I just wanted to make and then I'll throw it back, throw my hat back in the ring and let, let the crew here and Ellie, you know, kind of either respond or, or,

I'm not the expert on this, but all this makes me think a lot about it.