Barry Baines

sort of measure this and think about how it might be helpful to me or to Clarence or to Stan. Especially Stan because he's going to be taking a trip somewhere in the jungle and hopefully he'll make it through there okay.

sort of measure this and think about how it might be helpful to me or to Clarence or to Stan. Especially Stan because he's going to be taking a trip somewhere in the jungle and hopefully he'll make it through there okay.

Now, you know, one of the things that I learned from the first family physician I worked with in the office after my residency, he kept, I wouldn't say having to pound it into me because I got it, but he said, the better the relationship you have with your patient, the better the outcome.

Now, you know, one of the things that I learned from the first family physician I worked with in the office after my residency, he kept, I wouldn't say having to pound it into me because I got it, but he said, the better the relationship you have with your patient, the better the outcome.

And the reality is, is that it's hard to on a long-term basis, I mean, I guess long-term you can, but with the shorter visits, it's really difficult to get into those kinds of things.

And the reality is, is that it's hard to on a long-term basis, I mean, I guess long-term you can, but with the shorter visits, it's really difficult to get into those kinds of things.

And so if I may say, Drew, that I'm a little envious that you get to, you know, to spend that amount of time, you know, with patients, but clearly this idea that you really get to know who they are as people and sort of, you know, you said that you really like to see that change and it's only

And so if I may say, Drew, that I'm a little envious that you get to, you know, to spend that amount of time, you know, with patients, but clearly this idea that you really get to know who they are as people and sort of, you know, you said that you really like to see that change and it's only

I know it's rhetorical, but it's clear that by spending that time, you get to understand them a lot better. And then you're going to be able to come up with solutions that sort of fit who the person is. Because everybody is individual. And so it seems that that's a high leverage point on the one hand.

I know it's rhetorical, but it's clear that by spending that time, you get to understand them a lot better. And then you're going to be able to come up with solutions that sort of fit who the person is. Because everybody is individual. And so it seems that that's a high leverage point on the one hand.

And it also, but it's a two-way commitment that, you know, the patients and the people that you work with have to be willing to be in the long-term because again, the change tends not to be from today to tomorrow. It might be from, from this year to the, to the next year. And so I'm just wondering if, again, not to give away your secrets here as a naturopathic physician, but are there, um,

And it also, but it's a two-way commitment that, you know, the patients and the people that you work with have to be willing to be in the long-term because again, the change tends not to be from today to tomorrow. It might be from, from this year to the, to the next year. And so I'm just wondering if, again, not to give away your secrets here as a naturopathic physician, but are there, um,

you know, some of the high points of things that you've learned working with patients in a naturopathic medicine setting that can be generalized to the population, that people were to, you know, be more mindful of those things and maybe be thinking about that. Because you just don't get that chance to have that conversation in a 15-minute, you know, office visit.

you know, some of the high points of things that you've learned working with patients in a naturopathic medicine setting that can be generalized to the population, that people were to, you know, be more mindful of those things and maybe be thinking about that. Because you just don't get that chance to have that conversation in a 15-minute, you know, office visit.

You know, even having their primary care physician So I'm wondering if you could just speak a little bit to that.

You know, even having their primary care physician So I'm wondering if you could just speak a little bit to that.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Barry, last thoughts. Just I think that our health chatter audience is going to really benefit from learning more about a health care resource that really, again, gets at the root of a lot of our health problems today. as we've talked about and really the focus on prevention and really leveraging the relationship.

Barry, last thoughts. Just I think that our health chatter audience is going to really benefit from learning more about a health care resource that really, again, gets at the root of a lot of our health problems today. as we've talked about and really the focus on prevention and really leveraging the relationship.