Barry Baines

So it provides all of those ancillary services plus the medical services. And the hospices that I work with, the primary doctor for that patient, the programs I've worked with, we've always kept those doctors as being still the primary care. That's another reason why people don't want to go into hospice because they're worried that they're going to lose their doctors.

So it provides all of those ancillary services plus the medical services. And the hospices that I work with, the primary doctor for that patient, the programs I've worked with, we've always kept those doctors as being still the primary care. That's another reason why people don't want to go into hospice because they're worried that they're going to lose their doctors.

And oftentimes, you know, who knows the pain? You know, it's the doctor who's been taking care of the patient for years and years and years. They know them and hopefully the family as well. So that trust piece is there. And that is so very, you know, so very important.

And oftentimes, you know, who knows the pain? You know, it's the doctor who's been taking care of the patient for years and years and years. They know them and hopefully the family as well. So that trust piece is there. And that is so very, you know, so very important.

A team sport here.

A team sport here.

Well, they're actually hired by hospice. There are chaplains that are required.

Well, they're actually hired by hospice. There are chaplains that are required.

To be, and I mean, chaplains are clearly, however you want to turn that. They are part of the integral hospice team. You can't be a Medicare certified hospice if you don't have chaplaincy services as part of your hospice program.

To be, and I mean, chaplains are clearly, however you want to turn that. They are part of the integral hospice team. You can't be a Medicare certified hospice if you don't have chaplaincy services as part of your hospice program.

Most of the chaplaincy that are in hospice have special training that focuses on die you know dying on people who are dying and dealing with their you know with their issues um and you know even though they may be from a particular denomination it it's they take people where they're at and you know we certainly try if someone um let's say real you know let's say his muslim needs an imam um

Most of the chaplaincy that are in hospice have special training that focuses on die you know dying on people who are dying and dealing with their you know with their issues um and you know even though they may be from a particular denomination it it's they take people where they're at and you know we certainly try if someone um let's say real you know let's say his muslim needs an imam um

chaplains, they have their network in the community. Or if it's a Jewish patient who wants a rabbi or a Catholic person wants a priest or a Protestant wants a minister, they reach out to help. The other reality, again, is that people are connected to their church in a generic sense. They're a house of worship. They're connected to that.

chaplains, they have their network in the community. Or if it's a Jewish patient who wants a rabbi or a Catholic person wants a priest or a Protestant wants a minister, they reach out to help. The other reality, again, is that people are connected to their church in a generic sense. They're a house of worship. They're connected to that.

And hospice, again, reaches out if you've been in a religious, you know, setting with, you know, whether it be minister, you know, priest, rabbi, imam. Yeah. You know, you sort of want to continue with that. And hospice, you know, makes the connections to let that happen because oftentimes those people, again, they know the patients, they know the families.

And hospice, again, reaches out if you've been in a religious, you know, setting with, you know, whether it be minister, you know, priest, rabbi, imam. Yeah. You know, you sort of want to continue with that. And hospice, you know, makes the connections to let that happen because oftentimes those people, again, they know the patients, they know the families.

And so we try and keep everybody in the loop. as much as either the patients and their families and those providers would want to be doing that. Does that make sense?

And so we try and keep everybody in the loop. as much as either the patients and their families and those providers would want to be doing that. Does that make sense?

Clarence.

Clarence.