Barry Diller

did take an interest in me and was kind of the first person where I could see, you know, I know what I'm doing for him and I know how effective I am for him.

By the way, it's not like he ever said it to me particularly, but I could feel it and know it.

And that he had confidence in me gave me the imagery of confidence in myself.

And that was probably the first time.

So he believed in you more than you believed in yourself.

Well, I had no belief in myself.

So, I mean, and I'm not exaggerating this just for whatever, for drama purposes, but I didn't have any belief in myself.

But I don't even know if I now have much belief in myself.

I know how absurd that probably is to say, but I can only reflect on my own dim inner rings.

I think that there's no doubt that...

His confidence in me spurred me on, for sure.

I don't know if that ever made me feel confident, but it sure spurred me on.

I just wanted to please him more, and I did.

and i'm sincere and often quite blunt that in a way does make people maybe trust you i'm generally very trusting i don't start out untrusting i start out trusting and you have to do a lot to break that trust so i think that that ability to initially trust and people

realize that I am trusting them.

And I don't say, oh, this is a very precious thing.

Please don't screw this up.

Of course, I've been in situations where it's been misplaced, to say the least.

You can't be in business as long as I have to not have

you're trust-broken a lot of times.