Barry Habib

Khomeini, all gone, as the expression goes, the past supreme leader.

And then the new supreme leader was racked up, at a minimum, racked up pretty good.

And everyone else was gone.

And then many of the people in the third tier are gone.

But we're dealing with a group of people that I think turned out.

And the present, the gift they made to us, was very significant.

And they said they were going to do it, and it happened.

and they're the only ones that could have done it.

No, not long at all.

We have a case study.

What would you say?

I think a thousand hours.

You think it's a thousand hours?

To be just like them?

I think it's – you know –

If you're going into it and you're manipulatable, you know, three weeks.

I mean, we saw what happened in history when Patty Hearst was kidnapped.

And then she basically went from, they say psychologically, she went from Stockholm Syndrome, where you kind of start to lean with the feelings of your captors, to actually participating with the Symbionese Liberation Army in a bank hit.

Right.

She was only 19 years old.