Barry Weiss

But there's these extra things that seem kind of, as you put it, extra or even intensely risky. Tell me about these experimental treatments.

But there's these extra things that seem kind of, as you put it, extra or even intensely risky. Tell me about these experimental treatments.

It seems to me, and this is a little bit of a crude way to put it, but I think it's pretty accurate, that there's sort of like two competing schools of thought among, and forgive the phrase, alternative health people. There's the people that want to sort of embrace the practices of the past, right?

It seems to me, and this is a little bit of a crude way to put it, but I think it's pretty accurate, that there's sort of like two competing schools of thought among, and forgive the phrase, alternative health people. There's the people that want to sort of embrace the practices of the past, right?

It seems to me, and this is a little bit of a crude way to put it, but I think it's pretty accurate, that there's sort of like two competing schools of thought among, and forgive the phrase, alternative health people. There's the people that want to sort of embrace the practices of the past, right?

Paleo carnivore diets, people that are sewing and hand-dyeing their own clothes because they don't want any polyester or plastics, people that are like, let's go back in time sort of pre-industrial age for purity, right? And by going backwards in times, we can get healthier again.

Paleo carnivore diets, people that are sewing and hand-dyeing their own clothes because they don't want any polyester or plastics, people that are like, let's go back in time sort of pre-industrial age for purity, right? And by going backwards in times, we can get healthier again.

Paleo carnivore diets, people that are sewing and hand-dyeing their own clothes because they don't want any polyester or plastics, people that are like, let's go back in time sort of pre-industrial age for purity, right? And by going backwards in times, we can get healthier again.

And then there's people like you that are embracing sort of every technological, futuristic tool at our disposal, whether it's supplements or injections or biohacking tools, and sort of believing that the way to health is by embracing these sort of tools of the future, things sort of at the bleeding edge of technology.

And then there's people like you that are embracing sort of every technological, futuristic tool at our disposal, whether it's supplements or injections or biohacking tools, and sort of believing that the way to health is by embracing these sort of tools of the future, things sort of at the bleeding edge of technology.

And then there's people like you that are embracing sort of every technological, futuristic tool at our disposal, whether it's supplements or injections or biohacking tools, and sort of believing that the way to health is by embracing these sort of tools of the future, things sort of at the bleeding edge of technology.

Can you contend with that tension a little bit for me because I feel like it's kind of one or the other and you embody the – you're like the embodiment of the latter school of thinking about this.

Can you contend with that tension a little bit for me because I feel like it's kind of one or the other and you embody the – you're like the embodiment of the latter school of thinking about this.

Can you contend with that tension a little bit for me because I feel like it's kind of one or the other and you embody the – you're like the embodiment of the latter school of thinking about this.

So all of these things we've been talking about, and anyone who's seen the documentary will know or has read about you, you call this protocol Blueprint. How long have you been doing Blueprint?

So all of these things we've been talking about, and anyone who's seen the documentary will know or has read about you, you call this protocol Blueprint. How long have you been doing Blueprint?

So all of these things we've been talking about, and anyone who's seen the documentary will know or has read about you, you call this protocol Blueprint. How long have you been doing Blueprint?

Four years. Okay. And you say the goal is not just – your critics would say – Have fun, Brian Johnson. This is your life. Be a lab rat. You say that you're being sort of a human lab rat, not just for yourself, but in order to produce results that are hopefully adaptable for others. What are some of the big takeaways that are accessible already from this four-year experiment for other people?

Four years. Okay. And you say the goal is not just – your critics would say – Have fun, Brian Johnson. This is your life. Be a lab rat. You say that you're being sort of a human lab rat, not just for yourself, but in order to produce results that are hopefully adaptable for others. What are some of the big takeaways that are accessible already from this four-year experiment for other people?

Four years. Okay. And you say the goal is not just – your critics would say – Have fun, Brian Johnson. This is your life. Be a lab rat. You say that you're being sort of a human lab rat, not just for yourself, but in order to produce results that are hopefully adaptable for others. What are some of the big takeaways that are accessible already from this four-year experiment for other people?