Barry Weiss

More with Brian Johnson after the break. Stay with us. Brian, we're in a really interesting moment where I think people understand at a more broad level than they did certainly 10 years ago that whatever is going on right now with health in America and maybe the West more broadly is bad.

And they're open to pretty wacky or alternative or unconventional ideas because they see whatever our habits are, whatever's going on, they're leading to widespread obesity and heart disease and cancer and sickness.

And they're open to pretty wacky or alternative or unconventional ideas because they see whatever our habits are, whatever's going on, they're leading to widespread obesity and heart disease and cancer and sickness.

And they're open to pretty wacky or alternative or unconventional ideas because they see whatever our habits are, whatever's going on, they're leading to widespread obesity and heart disease and cancer and sickness.

And one of the core manifestations of that openness to alternative health ideas showed itself very powerfully in this last election cycle with the Maha movement, with the Make America Healthy Again movement. And I wanted to ask you what you think about it.

And one of the core manifestations of that openness to alternative health ideas showed itself very powerfully in this last election cycle with the Maha movement, with the Make America Healthy Again movement. And I wanted to ask you what you think about it.

And one of the core manifestations of that openness to alternative health ideas showed itself very powerfully in this last election cycle with the Maha movement, with the Make America Healthy Again movement. And I wanted to ask you what you think about it.

Just to draw a line under it, there was a guy, I'm blanking on his name, but who did a study of microplastics in like all foods. This came out in the past week. And I think it made people feel very betrayed that like the Whole Foods grass-raised beef had the most microplastics.

Just to draw a line under it, there was a guy, I'm blanking on his name, but who did a study of microplastics in like all foods. This came out in the past week. And I think it made people feel very betrayed that like the Whole Foods grass-raised beef had the most microplastics.

Just to draw a line under it, there was a guy, I'm blanking on his name, but who did a study of microplastics in like all foods. This came out in the past week. And I think it made people feel very betrayed that like the Whole Foods grass-raised beef had the most microplastics.

And so it was like even the people that are spending so much money to get the healthy meat felt betrayed. So it's kind of like everywhere. It feels like nothing is safe.

And so it was like even the people that are spending so much money to get the healthy meat felt betrayed. So it's kind of like everywhere. It feels like nothing is safe.

And so it was like even the people that are spending so much money to get the healthy meat felt betrayed. So it's kind of like everywhere. It feels like nothing is safe.

Wow. What does that mean?

Wow. What does that mean?

Wow. What does that mean?

Maha, I would say, is particularly focused on a few things. And I'm curious just your quick takes on them. We hit on microplastics. Obviously, you think that's an enormous priority, given what you just told us. Seed oils overstated in their badness or as bad as people are saying?

Maha, I would say, is particularly focused on a few things. And I'm curious just your quick takes on them. We hit on microplastics. Obviously, you think that's an enormous priority, given what you just told us. Seed oils overstated in their badness or as bad as people are saying?

Maha, I would say, is particularly focused on a few things. And I'm curious just your quick takes on them. We hit on microplastics. Obviously, you think that's an enormous priority, given what you just told us. Seed oils overstated in their badness or as bad as people are saying?

So like most infamously in the cultural debate is that McDonald's uses seed oils. RFK wants to bring tallow back. This is like a whole micro debate. But you're saying seed oils themselves aren't that bad. It's the way they're used.