Barry Weiss

But the argument that some of these startups are making, startups like – there's an AI startup called Hugging Face, which is an unbelievable name, the founder of a company called Stability AI. They're basically saying what Sam and the other big guys, the incumbents, are trying to do, OpenAI, Google, and Apple, is to kind of create –

But the argument that some of these startups are making, startups like – there's an AI startup called Hugging Face, which is an unbelievable name, the founder of a company called Stability AI. They're basically saying what Sam and the other big guys, the incumbents, are trying to do, OpenAI, Google, and Apple, is to kind of create –

But the argument that some of these startups are making, startups like – there's an AI startup called Hugging Face, which is an unbelievable name, the founder of a company called Stability AI. They're basically saying what Sam and the other big guys, the incumbents, are trying to do, OpenAI, Google, and Apple, is to kind of create –

basically asking government to kind of build a moat around you and stifle the competition through regulatory capture. What do you say to those people? And this is sort of like the argument between big tech and little tech. We can frame it in all kinds of ways.

basically asking government to kind of build a moat around you and stifle the competition through regulatory capture. What do you say to those people? And this is sort of like the argument between big tech and little tech. We can frame it in all kinds of ways.

basically asking government to kind of build a moat around you and stifle the competition through regulatory capture. What do you say to those people? And this is sort of like the argument between big tech and little tech. We can frame it in all kinds of ways.

What do you say to those people who are saying, we want to get in on the competition, the regulation that people like Sam and others at many other times are pushing for will hurt us and benefit them?

What do you say to those people who are saying, we want to get in on the competition, the regulation that people like Sam and others at many other times are pushing for will hurt us and benefit them?

What do you say to those people who are saying, we want to get in on the competition, the regulation that people like Sam and others at many other times are pushing for will hurt us and benefit them?

I definitely – first of all, I don't even understand what we're talking about when we talk about superintelligence. You understand what that means and the implications of it in a way that I just don't. So that's number one. And number two, if this technology is as powerful as people like you and Elon and so many others that are closer to it say that it is –

I definitely – first of all, I don't even understand what we're talking about when we talk about superintelligence. You understand what that means and the implications of it in a way that I just don't. So that's number one. And number two, if this technology is as powerful as people like you and Elon and so many others that are closer to it say that it is –

I definitely – first of all, I don't even understand what we're talking about when we talk about superintelligence. You understand what that means and the implications of it in a way that I just don't. So that's number one. And number two, if this technology is as powerful as people like you and Elon and so many others that are closer to it say that it is –

Of course, I think it should be regulated in some way. How and when is obviously like the relevant question. How and when matters a lot.

Of course, I think it should be regulated in some way. How and when is obviously like the relevant question. How and when matters a lot.

Of course, I think it should be regulated in some way. How and when is obviously like the relevant question. How and when matters a lot.

Recently, Marc Andreessen was on this show. And he talked to me about his perception of what the Biden administration was trying to do around AI technology. He came on and made the argument and told a story, really, that he experienced. He says... that the Biden administration was trying to sort of completely control AI.

Recently, Marc Andreessen was on this show. And he talked to me about his perception of what the Biden administration was trying to do around AI technology. He came on and made the argument and told a story, really, that he experienced. He says... that the Biden administration was trying to sort of completely control AI.

Recently, Marc Andreessen was on this show. And he talked to me about his perception of what the Biden administration was trying to do around AI technology. He came on and made the argument and told a story, really, that he experienced. He says... that the Biden administration was trying to sort of completely control AI.

And what they were aiming to do was to make it so closely regulated by the government that in his words, there would only be sort of two or three big companies that they would work with and that they were trying to ultimately protect them from competition. Is that true? Do you know what he's referencing? Was OpenAI one of those companies?

And what they were aiming to do was to make it so closely regulated by the government that in his words, there would only be sort of two or three big companies that they would work with and that they were trying to ultimately protect them from competition. Is that true? Do you know what he's referencing? Was OpenAI one of those companies?