Barry Weiss

It's easy to be a weathervane. It's easy to go where the wind blows, which is what a lot of tech titans are doing right now. But it's hard to be you. It's hard to stand up for your beliefs, even when they are not popular, and even when it means personal consequences, all of which is why I am so excited to be talking to you here tonight. Amy Chua, welcome to Honestly.

So in other words, you're at a university which is supposed to have a singular mission, which is the pursuit of truth. And you're at one of the most elite universities in America. And you still feel, in 2025, like you can't be free.

So in other words, you're at a university which is supposed to have a singular mission, which is the pursuit of truth. And you're at one of the most elite universities in America. And you still feel, in 2025, like you can't be free.

So in other words, you're at a university which is supposed to have a singular mission, which is the pursuit of truth. And you're at one of the most elite universities in America. And you still feel, in 2025, like you can't be free.

I think from the outside looking in, and Peter's piece really captured that, it looks like you've been vindicated. But what I'm hearing from you, and I know from talking to you privately, There are, I don't want to be too dramatic about it, but there are wounds that come from being pilloried and being outcast and having people say really rough things about you. Yeah, we've both been through it.

I think from the outside looking in, and Peter's piece really captured that, it looks like you've been vindicated. But what I'm hearing from you, and I know from talking to you privately, There are, I don't want to be too dramatic about it, but there are wounds that come from being pilloried and being outcast and having people say really rough things about you. Yeah, we've both been through it.

I think from the outside looking in, and Peter's piece really captured that, it looks like you've been vindicated. But what I'm hearing from you, and I know from talking to you privately, There are, I don't want to be too dramatic about it, but there are wounds that come from being pilloried and being outcast and having people say really rough things about you. Yeah, we've both been through it.

Yeah, and you're saying right now, even as from the outside perspective, it looks like the tides have turned, you're saying, I still feel like there's a target on my back. Can you just talk personally in front of a room of people how beginning with your book and then with the other book, then with the Kavanaugh, then with the dinner. How did that change you as a person?

Yeah, and you're saying right now, even as from the outside perspective, it looks like the tides have turned, you're saying, I still feel like there's a target on my back. Can you just talk personally in front of a room of people how beginning with your book and then with the other book, then with the Kavanaugh, then with the dinner. How did that change you as a person?

Yeah, and you're saying right now, even as from the outside perspective, it looks like the tides have turned, you're saying, I still feel like there's a target on my back. Can you just talk personally in front of a room of people how beginning with your book and then with the other book, then with the Kavanaugh, then with the dinner. How did that change you as a person?

I mean, psychoanalyzing yourself a little bit more. Do you not think that there's something about you, even if you're not thinking consciously to yourself, I want to create the next fire, but that you have maybe a higher level of comfort with either being disliked or being disagreeable than a lot of other people and maybe than a lot of other women?

I mean, psychoanalyzing yourself a little bit more. Do you not think that there's something about you, even if you're not thinking consciously to yourself, I want to create the next fire, but that you have maybe a higher level of comfort with either being disliked or being disagreeable than a lot of other people and maybe than a lot of other women?

I mean, psychoanalyzing yourself a little bit more. Do you not think that there's something about you, even if you're not thinking consciously to yourself, I want to create the next fire, but that you have maybe a higher level of comfort with either being disliked or being disagreeable than a lot of other people and maybe than a lot of other women?

I mean, it was the most, I was at the journal at the time, and I think it was the most read story of that entire year.

I mean, it was the most, I was at the journal at the time, and I think it was the most read story of that entire year.

I mean, it was the most, I was at the journal at the time, and I think it was the most read story of that entire year.

Really? Do you know what it was?

Really? Do you know what it was?

Really? Do you know what it was?

I can't remember. Okay. So... I do think that there's something about you and I'm interested in this quality in general. Some might call it courage, others might call it obstinate or bullheadedness or stubborn. When the mob comes and let's just even say when peer pressure is sort of brought to bear on you, there's something inside of you that seems to be capable of resisting that.