Barry Wirth
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And the fact of the matter is the Chinese were completely right about this and the Americans were completely wrong about it for almost 20 years. And the Chinese were not gonna let this moment go by without an acknowledgement. And that was the key to not just Downey's release, but the normalization.
And the fact of the matter is the Chinese were completely right about this and the Americans were completely wrong about it for almost 20 years. And the Chinese were not gonna let this moment go by without an acknowledgement. And that was the key to not just Downey's release, but the normalization.
He recognized that from their standpoint, he was a foreign invader who was trying to foment a revolution about their government. He was not an innocent by any stretch. And Downey was remarkably unbitter, as he said. He wasn't bitter at the Chinese for imprisoning him for 20 years. He wasn't bitter about the United States abandoning him for 20 years.
He recognized that from their standpoint, he was a foreign invader who was trying to foment a revolution about their government. He was not an innocent by any stretch. And Downey was remarkably unbitter, as he said. He wasn't bitter at the Chinese for imprisoning him for 20 years. He wasn't bitter about the United States abandoning him for 20 years.
He recognized that from their standpoint, he was a foreign invader who was trying to foment a revolution about their government. He was not an innocent by any stretch. And Downey was remarkably unbitter, as he said. He wasn't bitter at the Chinese for imprisoning him for 20 years. He wasn't bitter about the United States abandoning him for 20 years.
He seemed not to have a bitter bone in his body, which may have helped him in his later life, which frankly was inspirational.
He seemed not to have a bitter bone in his body, which may have helped him in his later life, which frankly was inspirational.
He seemed not to have a bitter bone in his body, which may have helped him in his later life, which frankly was inspirational.
Without much difficulty. And that was as great a surprise to him as it was to anybody else. He returns in April. He's got to catch up. He's missed two decades and two wildly tumultuous decades in American life. He has to catch up. He'd always wanted to go to law school and eventually enter politics. And he... He applied to law schools. Yale remarkably rejected him.
Without much difficulty. And that was as great a surprise to him as it was to anybody else. He returns in April. He's got to catch up. He's missed two decades and two wildly tumultuous decades in American life. He has to catch up. He'd always wanted to go to law school and eventually enter politics. And he... He applied to law schools. Yale remarkably rejected him.
Without much difficulty. And that was as great a surprise to him as it was to anybody else. He returns in April. He's got to catch up. He's missed two decades and two wildly tumultuous decades in American life. He has to catch up. He'd always wanted to go to law school and eventually enter politics. And he... He applied to law schools. Yale remarkably rejected him.
I think it's because the administration thought he... he would provoke feelings on campus and unreconstructed CIA guy. Jerk move that was, huh? So, yeah. So, and Downey's class, the class of 51 really punished Yale for that. They, a lot of them pulled their contributions, but he did, he went to Harvard for law school. And, and before he left, He was home now three plus months.
I think it's because the administration thought he... he would provoke feelings on campus and unreconstructed CIA guy. Jerk move that was, huh? So, yeah. So, and Downey's class, the class of 51 really punished Yale for that. They, a lot of them pulled their contributions, but he did, he went to Harvard for law school. And, and before he left, He was home now three plus months.
I think it's because the administration thought he... he would provoke feelings on campus and unreconstructed CIA guy. Jerk move that was, huh? So, yeah. So, and Downey's class, the class of 51 really punished Yale for that. They, a lot of them pulled their contributions, but he did, he went to Harvard for law school. And, and before he left, He was home now three plus months.
He got a letter from a young lab tech at Yale Chemistry Lab, a woman named Audrey Lee, whose life was a kind of inversion of his. She was born very close to where he was first tried, first brought after he was shot down. Her family emigrated to Taiwan. Her father was a doctor, eventually emigrated to the United States. was a physician in Eugene, Oregon. Audrey grew up here.
He got a letter from a young lab tech at Yale Chemistry Lab, a woman named Audrey Lee, whose life was a kind of inversion of his. She was born very close to where he was first tried, first brought after he was shot down. Her family emigrated to Taiwan. Her father was a doctor, eventually emigrated to the United States. was a physician in Eugene, Oregon. Audrey grew up here.
He got a letter from a young lab tech at Yale Chemistry Lab, a woman named Audrey Lee, whose life was a kind of inversion of his. She was born very close to where he was first tried, first brought after he was shot down. Her family emigrated to Taiwan. Her father was a doctor, eventually emigrated to the United States. was a physician in Eugene, Oregon. Audrey grew up here.
She moved east, and she happened to be in New Haven when Jack, after the initial reintroduction in society, actually moved into a Yale dorm, anticipating going to law school. And she said, I can't find anybody that I can talk about about modern China because of the propaganda from both sides. Can we get together? She invited him over. They fell in love almost instantly.
She moved east, and she happened to be in New Haven when Jack, after the initial reintroduction in society, actually moved into a Yale dorm, anticipating going to law school. And she said, I can't find anybody that I can talk about about modern China because of the propaganda from both sides. Can we get together? She invited him over. They fell in love almost instantly.
She moved east, and she happened to be in New Haven when Jack, after the initial reintroduction in society, actually moved into a Yale dorm, anticipating going to law school. And she said, I can't find anybody that I can talk about about modern China because of the propaganda from both sides. Can we get together? She invited him over. They fell in love almost instantly.